some expert take contacts to disclose or conflicts of interest.
If you could go around the Horn here, please start with Don No contact hold on a second. Don let me let me. I forgot.
I have to read the number of the of the here good afternoon. The first case today, and the only case today is Lu 22, 1, 5, 2, 7, 6, 4 dz 92 h lens.
And now, if the Commissioners could state whether they have x part day or conflicts for this this hearing no contact, no bias.
Sorry none have a Julie. No, although I did do a site visit via Google Earth.
Thank you. Chandra, Same side, is it? via? the more?
But nothing else. Last, but not least jessica that visit via Google Earth the last. So i'm the least I did. I don't have any confidential or bias So with that i'll read the rest.
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So with that. I will do that. the microphone, I guess.
To to Hannah for the presentation
Alright. can you see this in presentation? mode? yes, great.
Alright, I am Hannah Bryant and the planner here for this project.
The formal address is 9, 3, 3 0 southeast.
Harold Street, computer and number likes to toggle between slides.
There we go. so i'm going to run through the project history and zone in context, and then I will transfer over to Alex Yale, who is the applicant for this project.
Alex will introduce the proposal kind of the details of the design, and then it will come back to me to queue up the Commission for some discussion topics going forward.
I understand there are a number of people here to testify.
So thank you very much for navigating the Zoom testimony, and we look forward to hearing your comments.
The project is located in lens it's right in a very transitional zone, right at the outside edge of the existing lens. commercial core.
It buts up against the I 2 o 5 multimodal path, and I 2 o 5 highway or freeway.
It's also near the northern edge, of the commercial mixed use zone in lens, So there's residential, multi-family, both to the west and mostly to the north, which is shown in the map on the
right there in the light blue colors, the existing development across the street.
In those multi-dwelling zones is predominantly one story, single family, and one story load in seeing multi-family.
The existing zoning of the site is cm 3 it's a commercial mixed use 3 zone with a design overlay, and the center's main street overlay the floor area is a 3 to one base would be a loud floor
area is a 3 to one base, but 5 to one, with inclusionary housing.
Bonus, and 1.6, one to one is proposed.
The allowed. height is a 65 foot base height, 75 feet is allowed with the inclusionary housing bonus and 66 feet 3 inches is proposed.
The approval criteria. Here are the Portland citywide design guidelines, which you're all very familiar with, and the context big existing context is a large grassy field.
There are no existing buildings abutting the I.
2 o 5 corridor I point this out, because if you look here on the zoning map, you'll see this kind of pink Square is considered an also owned parcel this land.
Is currently owned by Prosper Portland. and So if you put just the address into Google. You get a variety of different street views, and one of them is the Boys and Girls Club, and the Rosemary Anderson High school That's shown here
in the back corner of the lot that is not proposed to be demolished, that it will be a different site.
Once this goes through Land is Review and that is there's no proposal to change that existing building.
This proposal is only for the vacant grassy field that's shown here in red.
So again, a little bit more to the existing context, this is from southeast Ellis and southeast 90.
Second, we're looking east here toward the site and then some additional contacts to recent development.
As I hope most of you got a chance to see in the site and and vicinity section of the decision. Lens is a really interesting neighborhood with a long history.
It was originally led town with the town of Lent, and it was incorporated into the city of Portland, or annexed into the city of Portland, around 1,912.
But in the 1970 S. I. 2 O. 5 was built, and it completely bisected and really demolished.
Most of Lens commercial core. So it went from being a town with its own intact economy that was connected to downtown Portland with a streetcar to being a fraction of its former self with the large-scale destruction caused
by I 205. So when we think about context that's been a tricky one, because much of the historic context for the for the town, for now the neighborhood was destroyed with that decision, the demographic changes and months
are really interesting and exciting. It has for the last 30 or 40 years been one of the most diverse neighborhoods in the city of Portland, with large populations of Eastern European Slavic populations, really intact large
immigrant populations. So you see some of that reflected here in the a large amount of new affordable housing, and also at the top left.
Here the Asian health center. The program overview today, that we're reviewing is 2 buildings. it's actually 3 buildings, but 2 residential buildings.
So we have this L-shaped building, A, which is a 5 story.
Mixed use with 159 units.
Building. B is designed to look like row houses, and it has 7 units, and then building, C.
Is exclusively for bike storage. The total of the 166 units are proposed, with ground floor retail, fronting southeast 90 s, approximately 4,290 square, feet of ground floor retailer
shown in 3 commercial spaces approximately. 51 parking spaces.
Alex can correct me if I didn't count that right residential amenity.
Courtyard and a roof deck are proposed.
The parking spaces that are shown are voluntary as is the pedestrian path along the south edge.
There's no required parking here. and there's no required connection between Southeast 90 s, and the I 205 multimodal path.
The project did not come in for a dir It did have a pre-application conference, and then came almost right away back in for land use application.
So we've been working together for quite a while and with that I will turn this over to Alex to introduce the project.
Welcome. Thank you. Can you hear me? Okay, great thanks hannah I'm gonna share my screen.
Now let's see, Do you see zoom or do you see the plan.
Have multiple Okay, Well, that's not the right screen maybe that's a little better.
Does that work? great Yeah. So nice to see so many familiar faces after a wall.
Again. My name is Alex Yale I'm one of the principals here at Yba.
Architects. Our addresses 1, 2, 3, Northwest Second Avenue suite, 2 o 4 Portland, Oregon, 9, 7, 2 0, 9
So as Hannah mentioned our site is located it's about about 2 point.
One acres does not include the parcel on the corner with Harold.
That's caused some some confusion in the past so we do have Ellis Street.
Just to the to the northwest corner of our site.
So that was a big driver. and then just to the South our we're developing this project resign this project for palindrome communities who has done many projects around in Portland and around Portland and one of
the projects that they're also developing is the Zoigal House, which is now the Zed, and and it has an existing parking lot to its north to our south along our South property line and so that will be that
would be an a market and and a plaza that will host for farmers markets and things like that.
So getting back to the the site plan, the big, the big drivers for us was create as much pedestrian continuity along Ninety-second Street relate to the podium buildings large podium 5
6 and I think even some piece 7 stories just to our south.
Few blocks at the heart center of Lens Town Center, and then also how to blend and transition to the single family.
Residential across the street, and and just to our north and across Harold.
So we proposed locating all of the parking, parking access.
We wanted to line it up with Ellis and and since that was already a an intersection, we wanted to concentrate it there.
So our parking entry surface parking entry is is along the north edge.
So that was that was a fundamental. And and then we basically have 2 inner locking Ls Parking is not required.
But we we, I think we have 50 59 parking sales and 2 type be loading stalls.
And so we wanted to get as much parking as was practical.
On this site we considered structured parking but it didn't make economic sense.
So we concentrated the project into an L shape.
5 story. all type would, or all would type type 3 construction and then wanted to create a protected courtyard space, a very green space in the in the center, and have as many doors and active uses and
massing and and shift breaks and operators for residential to be on ninety-second
But how to do that as best we can. Right? How do we create defensible space and lots of layers between the sidewalk and the units?
And then we wanted to activate the the 2 main corners.
On Ninety-second, the northwest, and the southwest corner, as well as the create a large break in the in the center of the mass to help break down the overall scale.
It was just over 200 feet, and the zone is cm.
3. Dm: So it has, an M. Overlay has has some extra requirements on it.
Main Street centers, and so but that created a large break in the middle.
Create an opportunity to have the main lobby connect all the way through.
That's really for the residents all the way back to a a private courtyard that would be locked in secure.
So it's a really great opportunity for for families to have effectively back portraits.
And and create a a loop for kids and and residents to to enjoy. and i'll kind of get into that in a minute.
To the south we have a two-story apartment building we're calling, building B, and it's really 2 bedroom, 2 and a half bath units that are about 16 feet on center.
So we get 7 of those units and that's really because we another driver of the site was connecting to the multi-nodal path, the 2 o 5 multi-use path that hannah mentioned that
runs north, south along 2 o 5 on it just to the east of our site to the west of the of the freeway, and then connects into the the Max line.
There's actually a max station right up here. so We have a a a private multi-use path connection. it's but it's it's open to the public.
There's no no gates or anything like that those happen up between the buildings.
The kind of secure the the courtyard space, and then a low built building, c.
We have one and a half park bike parking ratio requirement on this site.
So half the bikes are proposed to be in the units and the other half. it's something like 128, or something bike out of unit bike stalls are required.
So the bulk of that is actually in this like storage building and there's other requirements like I think of that.
13 of them have to be the the really large bikes and and another percentage needs to be horizontal. So it's quite a bit of area again.
These are some of the neighboring buildings, the kind of modern context.
Just to give you a flavor of what's in the area.
So the massing again, like I mentioned we wanted to put as much density on 90 s as possible 5 stories.
We went with taller ground floors I think they're over 14 feet, because we have a little bit of site slope just about 2 feet.
It slopes from north, being high south, being low. So
We have that site slight slope. So and then the 2 story townhouses.
So in order to break down that massing we we basically wanted a two-story block up high and then a sorry 3 story block up high and a two-story block. down. low.
So there's a there's a datum at that residential single family residential.
Height of about 25 feet and then the next move that we did. Our third move is that we then started to recess and break up that 3 over 2 massing with with vertical breaks that actually don't align
their intentionally offset from each other those vertical breaks again, so that we don't have long, you know, long tall 5 story proportions.
So this is a perspective on the southwest corner.
This is the prominent corner as you're coming up 90 s, and you're looking at the building as your northbound.
So this is a commercial retail corner, and, as you can see we have these residential units that are reminiscent of town homes.
So we created these large recesses. There that they're about 6 and a half to 7 feet.
They create these terraces at level 2. One of the things that was really important to us was also getting a lot of eyes on the street, and opportunities for connection.
Between the sidewalk and the pedestrian realm, and outdoor spaces that were for the residents.
So so a a general kind of move that that makes its way all the way around building a are these recessed porches that are about 7 feet deep, and and they're covered and Then there's a
terrace at level 2 for the level 2 residents.
The next big move to kind of reinforce the 3 over 2 massing was at level 3.
We have kind of a sprinkling of both on balconies.
That also create a bit of a randomized pattern across the across the entire project. But that are at that at that data line.
So they're while they are a bit intentionally randomized where they're located.
They're also intentionally at that at that 3 story datum.
The other thing that we did kind of sprinkle it in was Juliet and glass.
Juliet balconies. as a kind of a pin wheel scheme.
If you will go kind of go back to that massing diagram sort of a pin wheel direction around the L shape.
We created these larger recesses, these larger portals that also hearken back to what we're doing on the ground level at the recess patios.
At level. one. So it's bit of a fractal pattern that we're basically going after in that way.
And so the Juliet balconies also are at level.
2 and we line up several of those together to bring some hierarchy to those pin-wheeled recesses in the upper mass at the ground floor.
We're using stained natural stain to create a wood for just where we have canopies retail canopies and residential entry canopies.
And we're also proposing a really high quality would storefront.
System. And general motif are these full light glass doors?
Would doors with full light glass and wood transm above Again the proportion of the panels were using Sarah clad the proportion of the the recesses.
They're all trying to to relate to one another while I'm here also just talk briefly about the exhaust strategies.
So for all of the units that face the street and the parking lot to the north, basically the the outside units that you would see from the public realm, we're we're going vertical with a subduct
exhaust to get away from, you know. sidewal exhaust for those units, and then for the re.
The required fresh air intake. We have 8 by 8 vents that are concealed behind perforated metal panel.
So. The The general strategy is a lot of a lot of the unit.
All the units that that don't have juliet doors. right?
So the units that don't have a juliet door.
They have P. phps which are air air conditioning units that go underneath the window. i'm sure you've seen seen them.
They used to be called Pth P. tax the the newer models, Pthp.
It's a little more energy efficient anyways the point being Is that those those hrac air conditioning units are pulling fresh air in also behind a perforated metal panel.
So the the firstade, wherever you see these blacks black strips, it's basically perforated metal in the span rule locations, you know, above and below the windows.
And then in these strips as a demising wall, and we have 2 units that are mirrored, you know, pulling their fresh air in.
So the ptac units and the fresh air it'll all be completely concealed behind perforated metal.
We've done this on a couple of other projects Q. 21, and in Slab Town for one where all the P.
Phps are above the awnings, and behind that mesh, and completely concealed.
In order to relate to that. The bolt on balconies also have perforated metal mesh, a big concern concern over glass.
There was just having People's things and stuff and sort of how that can get a bit unruly where the the terraces are concerned, You know they're they're just basically parapets they function, that way.
So people's tiki churches and and bicycles and things.
Are a bit obscured. However, the Juliets are are would be glazed.
I'm just sort of dwelling on this image because there's a lot I can talk about here.
One of the other. Major moves is that we're using Sarah clad which is a really nice quality integrated segmentitious panel system.
If you're not familiar with it it has concealed fasteners, and it's a it's a complete system in that.
It also has 4 inch by 4 inch corner pieces.
One of the tricks with Sarah clad is that the product actually is?
It only comes in 18 inch wide panels that can go up to 10 feet tall.
So then you need a a seam or a break what's Nice about one of their systems, or products actually the cast stripe product that's on sawyer's row up near Slab town is they have the the
striping pattern, and when you go, when you interlock the 18 inch panels together, the the lapping is is concealed, so you can go 18, or you go 10 feet long, and then effectively.
You know, infinitely long with with the striping as long as they go as long as those stripings go horizont or
I'm sorry perpendicular to the length that you're trying to get out of it.
So all What we did is we? we panelized the facade such that we have horizontal strike because we a lot of our floor floors are much taller than 10 feet.
The upper floors are te generally 10 foot 6 and then we have about 20 on the ground floor, and then, in order to pull off all of these pushes and poles at level 2 it's about 13 feet, or so at the ground or at
level 2. So we needed this product to go taller than 10 feet in some cases, and so we panelized it in such a way that you know the the ribbon runs horizontal, and then over the windows it
flips vertical because we we you know don't need 10 feet in that direction.
So it's a general motif that i'm actually really happy with the way it turned out on the overall facade.
And at at the at the corners and at these data lines for these peers we have a deeper reveal of about 4 inches of reveal where the cladding actually flips orientation.
So it goes horizontally, and then we have a deep reveal here, and it flips vertically, and that's so.
We can get that infinite, contiguous look of the panel without having to have intermediate joints and things.
So we we would have some through all flashing that would be required at the floor lines.
But those those would be, you know, absolutely minimized. so that we can kind of maintain a more continuous look on the 3 story massing.
This is a zoom in of that corner, and just kind of showing how we would integrate solid wood benches.
Wherever we can. to correct, to respond to the design guidelines and then
You know we realize that that Sarah clad it can they can scratch or or or get hit. So
There's a couple of things There that we've done around the entire project, and that's to put planter boxes oftentimes up against the Saraclad on the ground floor, so we have along the street, the
general design is, i'm looking for a better slide we have a 4 foot furnishing zone that we have pavers in and then we have a pedestrian zone, and then we're actually taking 18 inches of
the 24 allowed in the planting zone and we've got a little planting strip, and then we've got the property line, and we have board form planters helping to create the the second layer between the units
and the sidewalk
Let's see here lost my place. on my i'll just kind of march around the building.
Taking up a lot of time, but i've covered a lot.
This is the middle entry. This is the middle, A large break in the building and the building entrance.
Again. we kind of have the analyzed mo motif order.
We have the dark black recesses. you can see the the perf panel.
And then here we also have fresh air intake at a demising wall.
So there's an extra little recess and reveal there, just kind of helps to make a nice nice proportion at the main building entry.
It's it's predominantly glass with a little bit of wood at at all of the commercial frontages.
And then these big, deep canopies and overhangs and there's actually a steel beam that would connect over.
But there would be a gap in a reveal to allow light and plants to kind of grow up in that gap and help help illuminate that. And then, actually, if you, if you stood here, you could see
All the way through to to the courtyard, and the paving material and patterning would be continuing continuous from property line through the corridor, and and a lobby on the backside all the way.
To a generous, you know, fire from outdoor fire pit and gathering space on the back.
This is the other corner, the the north northwest corner.
If you will. So now we're we have our parking lot aligned with Ellis. new curve cuts and sidewalks, and that 2 story terrace starts to you know it it makes its way all the way
around the building. we train to kind of a two-story order. on this side.
And the some of the bolt on balconies.
Come out of those 2 story orders kind of the two-story townhouse order.
Around the rest of the project, but we really concentrated our efforts and our dollars on on ninety-second with a lot of the the push pool in this location.
You can kind of see on this end so we have I think it's i'm gonna use it it's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 residential units on 90 s, and then back over here to the north the north side
of the big break. it's it is active use commercial retail here in here, and and so the the portals grow in size.
And are much, much bigger based on the space that's you know that's behind them the retail space.
And then this portal is actually another building entry and it's required with the M.
Overlay and it's what's kind of nice about it? Is it's an open space double loaded bike parking so you can come right off of ninety-second and you have I think it's something like
50 or 54 like stalls like in in the building proper, and then wood glass corner and a really really flush design.
The other thing that we did where we don't have at the retail commercial spaces.
We've got these peers we have these baby cyprus that are recessed into you know recess planners in the concrete.
So again, all the peers have these really nice up down lights.
And these little baby Cyprus in front of the peers.
So a lot of thought and attention to proportionality and and good good, just good proportion and coherence all the way around the building.
This is same same corner here, just a tweaked view showing more of the overall elevation, and generally we went with a a a break twice, so that we have 3 3 parts of the building massing and you can kind of see
the the pin, wheeling of large recesses that's kind of taking place to give some hierarchy at the at the corners.
This is almost all units across across there's a building break, and another building entry secondary.
There's several building entries because of the parking lot.
We in our We did a pre-app, and we did an Ea with Hannah in the team, and through that process we moved all of our services, electrical room, trash, boilers and all that we relocated it to
to this side of the project so it's in in the parking lot.
So that's happening at the we we this two-story order here we where we break break it, is either for building entry or for those those services.
A trash room and and things. This is the same side.
This is that corner that we were just looking at, just kind of a zoom in of the board form.
Planters cast in place, obviously. and then we have the units that face. ninety-second and the parking lot basically outside of the courtyard.
They would all get a little gate and then all of the unit patios.
They're basically the same on the courtyard side they don't have the the need for a gate they have a lockable caller gate that'll show you in a second for the whole courtyard this
is a perspective that you wouldn't really see there is a we, we move the transformers.
Add grade transformer it's actually fenced in the very north east corner of the site in the parking lot.
Kind of an unusable corner and so you wouldn't really ever see this angle?
But it's just kind of a nice architectural architecturally to show how at the at the corners. in the parking lot, and in the in the court yard we also are paying for these large decks and
terraces on the on the corners. and that the the middle of the building is a very, it's a very deep building.
It's over just over 70 feet where we have a full height, you know.
5 story, mass break. this is our bike shed if you will.
So it's mid-century and inspired it's the stack stack, bond cmu with just a really simple shed form.
We wanted it to be low on the courtyard side.
We wanted to to shh shield the the green courtyard from the parking lot and but also create a lot of porosity for bikes to come in and out.
So we got 3 entries into into the court guard and try to keep that path.
Connection from ninety-second through the lobby, through the courtyard, all the way back through the you know, through the parking lot. This is actually to the South.
So this is the other gate. This would be opened up to the international market.
There is some parking and whatnot here so it's not a direct alignment, and also this courtyard is not for the public use.
So it doesn't align or need to align directly with the plaza.
But it does connect to the bike path or to our new path, and, you know, be adjacent to to the market. This is a good shot of our T.
Of our town homes. we're calling them town homes they're just apartments which he story apartments.
They are brick veneer let's see if I can get a better angle.
This. This is a better angle of them. So this is the south east corner of them.
Here you can see a little diagram of where we are standing, so we have a large 2, 2, and a half foot deep recesses at at each portal, and that's also to kind of relate to the rest of the architecture
on the on the project, and then we have a deep I think it's about 12 inch reveal metal reveal demarcating the
Each row row home. It was only 7 units and so we didn't want too much in and out, but we wanted to make a kind of a a townhouse feel in a move here with a two-story, order.
and and the peers. So same thing with the lights, the canopies.
There are metal metal canopies. We have metal panel below and above the windows, but then we have
The Sarah clad paneling the same striped product also helping to create a panelized look board form concrete.
The site slopes a little bit to the east. So these these units on the end get 4 steps, but generally we wanted at least 2 or 3 steps as a minimum for all of the units that are on the ground floor again to
create a lot of layers and defensible space and and just a better feel for the units, for the residents when they're in the unit.
This is kind of an overall look at the project building a the see and the courtyard as you can see, so you can walk and see straight through the lobby to the fire pit.
Then there's an eating area and a covered barber queue area, and it's really a series of outdoor rooms and spaces.
There's a large green in the middle and a little berm with rocks on it, kind of create a natural play area for children.
And then there are benches, and actually elevated pots
And and a lot of attention to detail. Shapiro did.
We did a great job at creating a lot of lot of layers, but relating the the materials to each other.
And then the units typically facing the courtyard.
They all have a very generous patio space with cast in place concrete Co.
Planters and then also in between the units there are pre manufactured turnasol planners better the dark gray as well.
We also have a dog run that's you know can get a little stinky, so it's it's over by building c.
And kind of pushed away from the main space, but it would also be very well irrigated, and we have vertical vertical vines and lots of baby Cyprus that surround building.
See the bike bike storage now you can start to see that the international market and the plaza to our south.
It's it's not really in the Preview. of this design review or our scope at all.
But so we try not to show it too much. but it is there, and the project has thought about how it relates.
Throughout the entire process we have a little 749 square foot roof deck one egress.
We have, or taking advantage of the of the building code update and have a fully enclosed vestibule coming off the elevator.
Yeah, but it's it's pretty simple It has some pre-. manufactured planters on either side, and the rest of it would be ff and e and Frankly, we we have this is a lead this is a lead
gold project is the is the ambition and and so We're leaving as much space on the roof for Pv.
As possible. Okay, Okay. So this is a view of the court yard space kind of standing in the the dog run area.
You got the the raise berm and and rocks and play area green space.
The fire pit and the the lobby. we get a sense.
We also have some, some larger balconies at level 2 where we have larger breaks in the
In the second story ground floor, you know. Order Yeah. see, outdoor barbecue covered area.
That is right there. This is a rooftop view, you know It's the This is the The hrac and unit is is up here.
Our our generator is actually over by the the transformer and it's enclosed with a with a custom fence in the northeast corner of the parking lot.
This is really the air handling unit is the screen here.
But This location has got the opportunity for some really spectacular views of of Mount Hood because of how East it is.
And whatnot. Okay. So here is the overall landscaping plan.
Just out, I think, under 80 trees we have some storm water.
Planters in these light green areas here. but really the the the main focus was to create a lot of layers and edges and defensible space for all the residents and the and the units and then treat the
northern side of our big recess, as more of a commercial run.
And and then definitely at the at the corners.
There would be a gate here here and here, you know, for the for the courtyard.
These are just the the building floor plans kind of showing the lobby and mail and things.
This is where the bike bike room alcove it's open to the chord or commercial corners are in pink trash, electrical, all that janitor, all that kind of stuff is up here.
The loading is up Here we have 2 type B units.
The Ada is down here and then we have our bike shed.
It's organizes 2 double loaded allies that are.
It's open air so it's it's we have these wall panels of cmu, but then it's open screen and screened with vegetation.
The the back patio back patios of the building b units
So all of them kind of face face the courtyard.
So a lot of eyes on the court card. Okay, can tell a lot of this details in your packet.
So I won't dwell too much on it otherwise I will run out of time.
I know just a more detailed plan showing the the photo attack and the amenity roof deck and the planting plan up there.
This is just kind of an overall site diagram that's in our in our packet, and the red is the red is just intended to be more public as a diagram, and the and the orange is more for the
residents and the dash one is is in the building so it's just sort of a circulation and connectivity diagram our material palette of sarah clad white ash.
So just a really nice bright white, with not any weird Oh,
Red hue, or anything like that. a nice dark charcoal color.
Our our p-tac, or ptps would be concealed behind a perforated mental screen on the building B.
We have the a brick veneer it's sort of a light, very light gray brick is our proposed, and then our stained Tmu black steamed for the building be metal canopies here's
a Sarah clad Some reveal joints and and custom reveal joints that we would also implement.
And then we have wood doors and and wood storefront.
Vinyl, you know, just black vpi vinyl windows is the basis of design for all of the upper floor units.
And then we have double. We have a lot of double outs in swing and out swing French doors.
They would be, you know, sort of true double leaf French doors.
And then, of course, the board frame board form concrete cast planters around.
So these are just some of the elevations with the materials called out, I won't dwell on those, because frankly, I find the the perspectives more informative.
But you can see on the back side on the courtyard side.
I mentioned the the the through all exhaust or the lack thereof.
On the outside, facing units, on the insight phasing units.
We have the true one. Bedrooms that have The bedroom has a window, a true window.
Those units would actually face the courtyard, and they would have through wall exhaust.
And so we have a larger break. We have about a 4 foot break in the massing, and that's where the the mirrored units and demising wall exhaust would would exhaust.
But we don't. We have very few of Those the way It works out like all of the corners.
Our 2 bedrooms on the very northwest corner of the project, on on the sort of the knuckle outside, knuckle of the L as a 3 bedroom unit.
The rest of the corners are 2 bedroom units, and then
In facing inside of the core yard as true one bedrooms.
And then we have what I what we call kind of urban.
One bedrooms facing yeah, the street and to the north.
Townhouses. This is south, facing you can see the gates on these guys.
So it's wood doors again these are is our general accent.
And then this is just showing the French doors to their private patios facing the courtyard with no gate.
And then we're doing these deep reveals so it's a shed roof.
And just kind of a nice elegant slope to the to the profile of it.
Just to give it some form and what it does.
The roof is a shed and so it drains and we're actually daylighting, you know the downspouts.
So it would be custom. steel downspouts.
That would be that would be kind of daylit and and help help.
The breaks for the the real homes. lights at all appears, and similar striped cladding motif for the panels as well.
Okay, yes, sir, doing great and bound with me, really. Well, this is just some of the elevations on building.
See We got the panel, and then we have a black painted wood.
Is that is the structure with metal, metal, gutter and facia, and then we have a black metal and wood screen security for the bikes, and then gate metal gate gates into the 2 double
loaded aisles just some elevations we're about 9 feet under the Max required height.
We're waited below on the max fair allowed this is a section through building B so I won't dwell on these, but we we thought a lot about all of the ends and outs and so
we're we're doing a lot with pushes and polls on the massing, and so I need to start wrapping it up.
Okay, So, anyway, so just lots of details about how that all works with the Saraclad system.
This is ninety-second just kind of showing what that might feel like, and the relationship to the street, and then also to the courtyard
Planting plan, lighting plan, high quality overhead landscape lights around lots of led lighting underneath the wood benches.
Pierre Wallons's sidewalk ballards and lighting underneath the can be This is the custom wood fence.
Really, really simple for the generator and transformer that's in the very northwest northeast corner of the parking lot.
That's all I got thank you very much yeah Hannah
Hi there! alright! Then you see my presentation. Yes, alright.
Discussion topics, as you saw from the memo and the staff Report staff is recommending approval, and didn't have too many issues identified.
One. So some of these are not necessarily issues so much as things to point out.
The response to a adjacent sites. I think that this project did a really interesting job of responding to some of the adjacent sites.
Specifically the row houses that are facing south toward that zed food market that Alex talked about the pedestrian path that connects southeast 90 s to the west with the I 2 O.
5 path to the East, and then the parking and driveway which have been designed in advance to accommodate this future phase of development, which is a bit tricky because that will be a landlocked development parcel so they've had to
do a lot at this stage to make sure that this building can stay operational while the subsequent parcel to the East is under construction.
The public Brown, We always appreciate any additional comments or discussion.
This Commission has around ground for residential units we've had extensive topic or conversations specifically. i'm thinking about the dairy apartments conversations a couple of years ago.
So I feel like that really helped to inform the guidance that I offered this team.
These are raised and set back little front porches.
One of the elements that I thought was really nice. is this thick storage wall that allows for exterior access storage for the residential units, and each unit has its own. So that seems like a nice element and then the
planters that separate the sidewalk from the raised front porches.
However, the location of these ground floor units does kind of break up any potential continuity of ground for commercial.
Along South East 90 s. that was a consideration. at the end of the day, because of the zoning and the Rm.
Or the residential multi-dwelling zoning to the north.
There's very limited opportunity for this commercial corridor to continue past the site.
So we really just focused as a team on activating the corners and making sure that the lobby and the residential entry were very strong quality and permanence.
There are 2 items highlighted in your memo.
The first is the bike shelter. As as a staff reviewer.
I really kind of i didn't struggle with this but I recognized as I was reviewing the spike shelter. How unique and different these new citywide design guidelines are from the community design
guidelines that would have applied here in the past and specifically the community design guidelines have a lot more focus on what isn't isn't visible from the public room, and we're much less focused
on the items or elements that are in the middle of this site, which the spike shelter is it's this white square shown here in the courtyard plan, whereas these new citywide design guidelines are much
more focused on the site as an experience, and as an equitable space for the residents and the users of the site, and not just for the public looking in, so that felt like an important shift and one that I wanted to highlight and
I would also really appreciate hearing any thoughts that this Commission has about.
You know the location of these utilitarian elements, and how we ideally locate them.
When n entire cell is reviewed with people equal hierarchy and the second quality and permanence element that I wanted to call out is ground floor material.
You'll note that in the staff report I address some concerns about the durability of the Sarah Cloud at the ground floor, and I've been working with Alex since that staff report was published to explore alternatives and so one
alternative that he has is to line, use an alternative material in the inside of these alcos, which are the areas that are going to be most exposed to furniture and bikes being propped up and using a high
density through Co. 3 color, semantitious product such as equitone or niche.
Ha! and he's still trying to figure out the right color match So he's really looking for a product that matches the Sarah Cloud and Company.
But it does have some details related to that, and Staff is supportive of making that swap.
If the Commission is so, we can talk more about that but I do have a draft condition of approval.
If that's something with the mission wants to support and with that the staff recommendation is approval.
There were no conditions of approval included in the staff report.
But we do have draft condition of approval. Language to, you know.
Give you a foundation if you do want to pursue more exploration of a higher density, c.
Mental system cladding on the inside of those grounds for all codes.
Yeah, Anything else? Sorry I didn't mean to interrupt you Are there any questions for me before public testimony?
And I was gonna add, quite. I didn't give anybody an opportunity to question the applicant, either, so we could do do Hannah first, and then we can ask questions of the applicant afterwards.
Any questions from Hannah I do have a question. tana the guideline all for pause, sit and relax, encourages inclusion of arts and or water teacher.
I have not seen it here, and you have not made any reference to it.
Can you elaborate? There is no art or water features proposed as part of the land.
Use application. So those are 2 of the suggestions, but not the only suggestions.
And Staff found that reading the full text, the guideline was met in other ways.
But that's a good point I mean there's certainly space for art or water features.
If that's something that seems like an important element to add in.
Okay, Thank you. Yeah, Thank you. Any other questions. Maybe Brian.
I'm happy to use my phone today, but and if if i'm getting a bad actual problem just .
Can I ask questions of the applicant at this point let's ask Hannah first, and then in a second the application.
That's okay. Yeah, my only my only I apologize I can't remember our green roof requirements.
Okay, it sounds like this applicant is gonna be going for solar power instead, If Hannah could just remind me of that, Sure, Yeah, the Eco roof requirements are in Central City and this project is So they're
not required to meet you. Okay, you seem to have a question
I appreciate the talking points that you have provided and I have some thoughts that i'll share later about the citywide design guidelines, because we haven't used them very much right So we're still just kind of learning
how to use them and it's been an interesting exercise to review this project with new The new design guidelines the in the drawings in the staff.
Report in the applicants narrative. there's reference to future development on the East parcel.
The parcel immediately to the east that's still in the D.
Overlay. so a landlocked parcel with a d overlay that is presumably not too far behind.
This first phase of development of folks who are already talking about it.
Okay, I just wanted to confirm that Yeah, Yeah, you want to sign guidelines. Yeah, Okay, i'll have a question for you about that and just a little bit, Alex.
Thank you. Okay, So anybody else it's Okay, Anna did stuff.
Then, in regard to the conversation about retail or commercial space on the ground floor, Did Staff have any concerns about the big.
Those pilesters or I I don't think it's storage at the commercial spaces.
But they create these really deep alcos which typically if there's retail.
There, you're you know you're obscuring the possibility that people will even realize that's there.
Did staff have any conversation about that at all I didn't really have conversation about the visit.
The reduced visibility to the storefront windows.
I think I personally was looking at those as fill up seating spaces which is something that in general we support, having spill out, seating that doesn't take up the full sidewalk with of course the
sidewalk will be rebuilt to current standards so it's not going to be the same awkward condition.
We see with some existing buildings but no I didn't I think mostly the scale of the commercial spaces.
Maybe it feel like they were more pedestrian oriented.
The please were less less scaled to be something that was gonna be a destination business that people need to drive by and catch us.
Their as it captures their eye. but it's a good it's a good point.
It just wasn't something that I focused on Thank you.
Yeah, Chandra, Do you have any questions? Phone: Okay, So any questions for the applicants?
Well, the hands went on. Yeah, when I start with Don he he!
He buzz first. Okay? Well, yeah, it i'm i'm just sort of curious.
I'm talking to Alex about how the responded to the context questions.
You know this is obviously an emerging neighborhood or or a reemerging neighborhood.
Once. I guess it was once a much stronger neighborhood here.
But how? how do you? Because what did you see in the context that you responded to?
You know there's a guideline one build on the character and local identity, and that's operation of the place, for example.
2 create positive relationships with surroundings, and all 3 integrate, enhanced onsite features in opportunity to contribute to local locations, uniqueness.
So any of those things that you responded to and i'm just sort of curious how you thought about this going in, and particularly some of the formal language of the building, and is it in response to context or not
I can't hear. Sorry I was muted great great question The first consideration was really how to cite the project, and the kind of the interlocking l's and creating as much continuity along ninety-second
as possible, because there's already a lot of suburban sprawl repair to do with parking lots and and and driveways, and that kind of thing.
And then, obviously the international market to the to the south to our East.
You know we're we're also trying to orientate the building
So that is the the predominant views out of the units weren't looking right out on to the freeway.
So A lot of thought was given to views and sunlight and shade in the summertime to the to the courtyard.
So the the first thing was just met was frankly, Don was was site, site, orientation and massing, and and the site plan so kind of really nailing that.
And then, as far as the formal language it it we Even at 5 stories we were concerned about the height of the building and and the mass, and so we wanted to break break that down as much as possible.
And, like i'd mentioned earlier, create a lot of a lot of layers between
We. We also felt it was important to have units on facing ninety-second we're trying to maximize the the unit count while still maintaining a small building footprint relatively, speaking, But also, how do
you you know there's there's across the street there's all of these turn of the century, So and then post post war era homes that have these deep porches in front yards and so how
do you create a mixed use building that relates to what's going on to the south of us in kind of a higher density neighborhood, and how it kind of transitions to the North.
So these are kind of like home, feeling port portals and porches at front portches and franches.
That was. That was how we were responding to to that.
And then and then these really glazed corners for the active retail
And then the the roh, you know the real homes, too.
Just trying to pick up on that proportionality. of kind of a streetcar era ro home or or row house.
Yes.
Don you have a follow-up, the the use of the formal elements and the vertical elements on the upper floor, etc.
Well, what informed that from the context, so it was going back to the massing, amassing breakdown.
Kind of break, breaking it up into the 3 story and 2 story order.
Felt like those those were those were good and appropriate.
Massing moves, and so it was kind of a game of relate the upper mass to the to the ground floor.
Home, mass massing, if you will, and the the peers and the portal order the So while it was, you know, a very different circumstance on the upper floors, the architecture and the and the formal language of the
recesses and the peers and and kind of that proportionality.
I'll relate back to the ground floor units and the portches and and portals that we were using as a formal language
Okay, Thank you. Jessica
Sorry looking for the mute button. on the north and west units on the outer the odds.
Did you consider using sliders instead of swing doors because it doesn't look like there's space for furniture.
Once we could do the door swings. Yeah, did you?
Which units, did you say specifically, were you talking about along the west side and along the north side, along the west side?
Here. Yeah. and then definitely along the north it's like the whole thing is just door swing.
What's nice about the doors that we chose was that you Can you can open it either?
One so we're we're thinking that that most of the time.
One of these leaves will always be closed. you know so that there, and we did offset the steps into into it.
So you know We're sort of imagining that somebody would would enter. and and mind you, this is kind of a back door, too, for this is they?
They're front door is off the corridor technically but that would enable you know a small like chair and tape, and or sorry table and chairs to be here.
But that that the Renner would be able, you know, if they wanted to have step out here, they could just keep this door leaf close.
It actually has a central you know, just an astronaut.
Mainly actually for security. so that because otherwise those doors if they don't have that, you know you can really somebody could could open them under underload.
So anyways, How big is that rectangle where the furniture could go like a box valley?
What are those dimensions
Rectangle. Okay, and the other one in the North.
How big is that? Then one in the north it's a little tighter?
It's it's about 5 feet deep but it's a little bit longer.
It's about about 8 or 9 feet so Okay, thank you.
Sorry right. Yes, The landscaping is very, very formal and structured and layered very nicely.
I I think it's well thought out i'd like to know that all the upgrade planting is going to be irrigated.
It is. yes, good. yes. And does your landscape architect feel good about?
Just because you know so much of the planting is in. either raise planters or openings and pavement.
Do they feel good about? soil volume that'll support the size of the trees that we all desire that show up in your renderings that really achieve the layers of stuff like that Yeah, Yeah, we've had a lot of
conversations and and coordination meetings about that and ensure that we've got enough enough width
Generally speaking, these tree we have, we have an abundance of width and soil area.
This diagram is a little misleading in that like zones like this and this are, you know it's all landscaped, even though it's sort of colored 2 different things.
It's really a kind of a diagram that they're that they're using to to check the landscaping requirement boxes.
Adjacent to the parking lot i'm, thinking I'm thinking of these wonderful trees leading into the purchase of stoops.
They're in. looks like 3 foot wide planters like right along the back of the townhouse is there right here.
Yeah. yeah. So we we talked about not having stem walls and having really chow sidewalk footings and foundation so that the trees that that they do specify and have would have root grow underneath
Okay. 1 One last little question is a commercial unit, 101.
If I if I got the new nomenclature.
It sounds south, south, west corn. Is that wheelchair accessible?
Or do you have to step up to get some shoe horned in a 4.7, 8 degree slope?
Okay, here, right here. So you have some steps that come up, and then you have a little concrete wall on either side.
So this is actually a non technically not a ramp it's a slope.
So it doesn't need handrails Okay, Great.
Thank you. I think, Julie, you next. Thanks, Sam.
Alex. Could you, describe the what you know about the exact plans for the roof right now?
It seems. looking at the drawings, it seems as if the solar panels are an option that, combined with the fact that the rooftop deck is very modest.
And that caused me to wonder why you would include a rooftop deck in the program. when it takes a lot of infrastructure to get there.
Why would that be included when the the courtyard is just really a fantastic amenity?
How serious is the developer about the rooftop.
Both the panels and the deck. great, great question.
So we put it in as as optional, Pete photovoltaics, really, because, as you guys, I think all know with construction costs changing as rapidly as they are. But we we really need to do is we need to get
further along closer to permitting, before we really know what the true cost of this project or any project really is.
So the photovoltaic panels are in there.
If if if the project, if if the project meets the budget that it needs to meet, then we wanna have them in here.
We're doing lead gold. no no matter what and we have the points We don't need the Pv.
But if we can afford it, we will put them in the roof deck.
Amenity is you you you kind of hit it hit it on the head. we're really putting our eggs in the in the courtyard, because we feel that those types of spaces.
Really get used, especially at all the units. look out on them, and a lot of them actually open out onto them.
Physically. you can walk to them the roof deck is
It's a nice thing to have when you are leasing a unit, and you're on the walk just to be frank with you.
But Oregon is either in my opinion is either too hot in the summer, or it's too cold and windy in the winter time.
Yeah. and so roof decks are rarely ever used in practice.
And so having one that's bigger than this which would which would necessitate another means of egress.
Is not really necessary. So if we have to cut it, you know, in down the road, because of cost, that would be probably the first thing. not first thing.
That would be one of the things we would, we would cut out, and we would still have all the other great amenities.
Yeah, Okay, that that thanks for that. you know it's certainly in the Central City.
It makes a lot of sense, and it may make a lot of sense in areas outside the central city where there is not the opportunity to do really great site development at grade.
But I I gotta say I looked at that and just thought that that's never going to be built.
It just doesn't make a lot of sense so phase 2 Alex.
Is the boards in your office? It is not great great question.
We would love to do it. but no, it it may get done.
2 years from now it may never get done or
So so we we master planned it as kind of 3 story.
Walk up Okay. down the road. And so you guys can see my cursor moving around right?
Yes, Okay, So here's what we did so this property line here.
This is the property line. We had to work work with the the landscaping requirements of this parking lot, even though there's nothing here.
So we have the required buffers and landscape requirements down the road.
The way we design this for future. If If these 2 buildings ever get designed and build is, you know, they would then be able to put in head in parking on this side for the future you know kind of the future
phase, and that this sidewalk I didn't really kind of, you know, could and would extend and be lined up with this whole design.
So just before you have done some master planning that takes that landlocked parcel into consideration is immensely reassuring, because I mean, if it that would be incredibly challenging to review without
someone having given it some thought before this building that is proposed today was constructed on ninety-seco 90 s Avenue.
So? yeah, thanks. The fact that you've looked at it is good.
Last question. So the townhouses which are I think very successful. and i'll have more to say about that when we get around it.
Some discussion on the tenants. there is a waste and recycling room at the north side of the larger housing building.
And this may be more of an operational question than you are prepared to answer.
But what is the likelihood that residents in the townhouses?
And then also residents in the row houses. that face 90.
Second would actually have trash bins in their storage rooms, their exterior storage rooms rather than having to haul trash all the way over to the other side of the site more than 200 feet away i'm just
i'm the thing i'm wondering is are there going to be a bunch of trash bins unmanaged out on the curb.
That really are not being considered right now through our guidelines lens.
Julie, can I interrupt for a second we have a testify that needs to leave room.
So I'm going to skip around a little bit and we'll get to this answer in a second.
But we have I think it's David hold on a second I wasn't prepared for it.
So. Laura, do you the the person It's it is it David, No.
Look Christiansen. we're gonna have nick testify now and then.
Well, we shuffle
Nick, you have a Thank you. Sorry, and thank you for letting me jump in.
I appreciate it. My name is Nick Christensen.
I am 13 year version of once. If you might have a work from school right now.
So first of all, this is an exciting project I hope it sales through today.
I'm here with one comment in particular or 2 comments in particular, that are most specific to this project, and thanks to keep in mind for the Drc.
As you pursue future projects in the lens community.
One as you look at the Lens Town center.
Developments to the Lens Town center from I 2 o 5, or from the Max Screen line.
One thing that you notice right away is that they all have the same blue slide.
Okay, that's flat as a pancake and I don't know if this project is any different.
If it's got the exact same top you know roof elevation is the other 5 buildings that were built about 5 years ago.
But I would hope that there is some differentiation just one big flat.
Yeah building surrounding generally single family neighbor, the other thing I would add, is thinking, I know there's been a lot of discussion about landscaping trees today.
You know we've seen all the we've all seen the news about heat islands in the lens neighborhood.
I know these these are things that can't be solved overnight. but, as we think wander term about smell how to address heat and create shane once neighborhood thinking about are you guys looking at
how these properties will these from shave trees that will grow in eventually cooler spaces, and the community. i'm excited about this.
I've been excited about this, for a long time I was Neighborhood association share from 2,013 ish through many different iterations of projects on the site ranging from hey? conceptual design park to add back to our senior housing
but to to this now, and the idea of how the Row houses on ninety-second to having more housing, having more market rate housing after we made the commitment as a neighborhood association, life and almost all the new
construction that you see at 90, s and faster, almost all of it is affordable housing and with the promise that market rate will come later.
See that finally becoming reality is really important. so this is exciting it's exciting to see the developer listen to the community.
When we realized about 10 years ago. Oh, Foster Road is not our main street?
Ninety-second is our main street so thinking about ninety-second in that context it's great. and also you know the view from what could be a rooftop terrace aside from the freeway it's right
there. Mount Scott is gorgeous today.
So if I if I wasn't picking up my kid or not go back to work you know whiskey soda and a nice umbrella looking out about Scott, and if it wasn't cloudy
enough really nice. So thank you guys appreciate it don't worry about those swinging doors on ninety-second on those row houses, either, because nobody's very true .
For small units, because if they did, it would be there the next day.
Thanks so much. Thank you. Take it through the testimony.
So i'm not gonna I think they might be one other person.
But let's go back to the question julie Yeah, so it's It's just about waste collection for the townhouses, and the ground floor units on 90 s and you know how realistic is
it to expect people to walk their trash 200 feet?
And are we potentially going to have a bunch of
Okay, Cans lined up on 90 s, hey? thanks thanks for the question.
It's a good one. the units on the ground floor.
That face 90. second those ones So in in the knuckle.
There is trash and recycling for all the units.
So they The good news is They don't have to go very far for for these, for these 5 I would also say that I, the developer is is very experienced, has got a lot of units in Portland and and beyond and so
i'm sure that, in in management you know they would they would also stipulate that as well.
But the good news is is that we've got the way we've organized this.
We've got trash and recycling that you can take your stuff to, and then the building building service is then takes that to the to the trash room.
And and and so and so that's how that's how that's handled it there there's also the opportunity on the upper floors, though it doesn't really matter your question we've got a
token trash, trash, shoot, but there would be trash and recycling on on every level in the knuckle.
Yeah. And then the the town homes to to answer that question.
Yes, they would have to kind of like in a lot of garden style apartment projects where you've got a a trash enclosure separate from the unit.
They? they will have to walk their trash, but it has a large you know.
Double door from the outside for them to to bring it around.
So I think I think in terms of management it it's gonna come down to It's gonna come down to management on that.
That the back porch in the front porch you know you can't have a big trash bin.
Yeah, Okay, thank you. is that is that It Okay, I'll, I'll ask you another question.
Alex. on the top floor. I saw the I mean. You have the elevator access, obviously after 88 Ada, access to that top top floor.
Amenity. and it seems like it seems like the overrun is really low.
How is that one appropriate for to get an elevator to open on that floor because it seemed like it was just the hide of the floor?
You can go to that drawing. I mean that like a section or a talk for you.
I mean it just seems like I don't know I mean I don't know what type of elevator, unless it's something that i'm not aware of.
Where the machine room is some is remote somewhere else and it's not on top.
It just doesn't seem like you have the overrun And the reason it matters right is that if you are gonna have that room, is that .
Another half story taller. Yeah, great great question so we've already we have already specified the elevator.
And it is in our revival it's not that short it's pretty tall actually.
And so yes, there's there can you do me a favor with the the root.
This is just the roof plan doesn't kind of show the height. So i'm looking for the you know what I think I did.
Are you looking for the the aerial view Well, I in the area of view? It looked like a flow only a throat tall, right, and that doesn't seem tall enough to have the overrun. So if you have a section that would
be better bear with me here. Well, I can pull it up, but yeah, it's the elevations.
I think show it it's a bit it's a it's I mean we're allowed up to 16 feet hi in the zoning code.
If we were at Max Height, which were not we're 9 feet low.
But it is yeah it's about could you show the drawing.
I i'm i'm i'm i'm I'm I the only one not seeing the drawing i'm sorry I've been pointing at stuff this whole time.
Okay, so that looks like a storytell maybe It's a little bit more than a story this is No, it's like It's like 14 feet tall overall like to the to the top of this guy.
It's it's. Pretty big. this is 10 foot 6, maybe deceiving is that the Florida floor is a little bit higher than your Okay, thank you very okay, Thank you very very
No. Yeah. I just have one. Follow up, Sam. Yeah.
Go ahead Okay. When I look at the courtyard in the southwest, absolutely corner of that particular courtyard, it looks like there's an outdoor kitchen with a sink on a couple of
barbecues and a dodged line going around that area plus some seating.
Is that correct? correct? And the the dash line is like a covered pergola.
Okay, I was thinking, Yeah, it would be great to have some sort of cover over that for some protection as well as main protection.
So exactly like down in that area. Okay, and there's a like a vegetated screen on the back side of that dawn.
Kinda you know. Buffer it from the private patios.
Correct. Yeah. Okay, alright, thank you. Okay, So in this if there's no other questions.
Laura. There was one other it was one other is it?
What is one other person? I wanted to testify the money, what he sent dia email just the written testimony
So I mean I guess if it's written testimony I don't have to read it.
Do I. It would be great if you don't mind Commissioner Roger
Okay, So Mr. David strance the submitted testimony in writing.
I don't have an address for him so but his testimony is as follows: I feel that the whole meeting done as a Zoom meeting is, I know, in public life, human beings addressing the Council is wrong It excludes the
non-computer, literate elderly non-english reading, immigrants, and other taxpayers that deserve the right to be heard.
I'm an elderly for instance, some what computer proficient I could and could not get into zoom.
So i've already had troubles this technology has basically silenced.
Even if you could get through it, wouldn't not carry the same way as a living, breathing person giving their testimony at a live recorded meeting at a live recorded meeting, i'm against the development because of these issues, one number one
parking. The site map shows only 50 park to stalls, and no mention in the mail.
Out how many there will be. The text mail to us states that there will be a 159 units.
Where are the other 109 people going to park? Question, Mark.
And that does not count for a second car per unit to security There's no mention on site security on the complex 3.
We will. will the age Old fur trees in the West owner be removed?
Is, It is my hope that the law would be used in a less damaging effect to the community.
David Strands. so in in case he does, he is listening.
I I unfortunately zoom is the the methodology we're delivering these hearings right now, and that's the Tim setting the in the in the items of interest.
We will help go hybrid. So hopefully, these opportunities to for people to come in person will be afforded.
And then second parking is really not something that we're parking or security is not something that we talked in the in the guidelines.
So and then, so that's so so Laura is there anybody else that wants to testify
There is not no reason. Well, with that, then. I will.
I think we can start our debate. so I think Commissioner Sam.
We just call this public testimony at this time thank you. We're closing public testimony, and we can start our discussion.
But I was gonna ask Alex. Can you put your drawing up so that we can refer to it?
Maybe move them around as commissioners refer to but don't answer any questions, because this money has been closed.
Yes.
Oh, okay, Okay. So with that Well, well, I I have done it in a while.
You guys. So it's this is a almost like starting all over again.
You know we got into a good so so we're gonna do it as usual.
We'll we'll just to discuss the project and why don't we start with public realm?
Yeah. Jessica
I think the project does really well for public round guys on
In response to some of staff's started. that we were going to go based on hannah's. what we we can, I mean. but it is yeah, we can. We can go with those tweets Yeah, absolutely so for
ground level units in the continuity of commercial I i'm not so concerned about that.
And i'm no longer concerned about the Depth of the or obscuring the commercial, because, as Hannah pointed out, this is kind of the end of the line.
There's not going to be likely. more commercial beyond here. so it's really going to be people as she pointed out walking to these small retail spaces.
But I really do appreciate that. They are providing permanent covered space for those commercial spaces.
So there is a protected covered place for tables and chairs, at least an opportunity for that.
If those places you want to and then in response to the bike shelter, I think that's a great solution for this particular site, because it does a good job of making the courtyard feel like a more enclosed job defensible space and it buffers
from I 205, and I was going to kind of buffer from also the new building.
But it, and it also buffers from the parking area making that courtyard probably feel I would just imagine feel a lot nicer than if it wasn't there.
And it was just fronting on parking so likely more successful as well.
More people will use it. I think that's it for for public room.
Thank you. Brian. Do you want to go next?
Yeah, are we? I'm a little confused are we doing context or public realm?
Well, i'm, the only reason I started with public that's that's the order hand up what I mean?
Alright. But why don't we you can also move up in this case I what I would I would think both of them are okay so on a personal level?
I've kind of gotten to know this area over the last 4 years visiting my daughter and grandkids, and we took a lot of walks all around this area, and frequently frequently went for coffee and pastries up in the
town center, and I I have some observations. as a lot of this town center was just barely getting open over the last 2 and a half years.
It also simultaneously got hammered by Covid.
And so the retail energy in the town center is not robust it's trying to get off the ground.
There's actually probably a little bit more retail energy, and some of the older storefront buildings. so I see I see what the applicant has done here with their strategic placement of of their commercial spaces
as a good move. it's not over retailed but it is gonna try to bring some of that energy from the town center north and 90 s Avenue is a good is a good street to do that.
It's it's quite busy at rush hour but it quiets down during the middle of the day, and after rush hour, and it's not a bad street to walk on and it connects up the street to lens park
so. and here's another observation wandering through all the various local streets west of here the public realm, just very uneven in the neighborhood, you've got some streets with detached sidewalks some
streets with very skinny attached sidewalks, and by that I mean no planting strip.
And then there's some gravel shoulders with no sidewalks at all.
So I got to navigate all of those with 2 babies in a stroller, anyway.
What I see this project doing is taking a pretty high quality public realm from the town center and extending it to the north, which I think is a really good thing for the neighborhood, and the way the landscape is being
treated in a formal manner, with layers of transition between public and private, I think, is skillfully done, in particular, on on 90 s Avenue side, and then on the townhouse side and actually in the courtyard
side, too. so I see a lot of very, very well thought out moves for for both the parts of the project that are going to be open just to the residents, and the part parts of the project will be open up to the
residents and the public so I think i'm pretty much in agreement with staff report that it's
It's meeting the guidelines. I'll hold there, come back to context, and thank you, Brian.
Hi, Chandra, I really agree with what the other commissioners have said, especially Jessica, I mean they provided a lot of places for a lot of activities on the street that will keep it lively even if the whole thing
isn't retail, and the plantings I think all of that is working.
So that's all I have that Okay, hi Julie thanks, Sam.
So great great comments public realm. So I struggled, Hannah, with the ground floor units on 90 s rather than commercial space.
I actually found that a challenge in our current guideline context, and it wasn't until I really dug in.
And this was just looking at the drawings It wasn't until I really dug into the staff report, and also the applicants narrative. Alex.
Very good narrative that are really kind of brought myself around to accepting the fact that there are ground floor units the, you know, E. Even Even if I had not gotten there, I would have thought that they were you know appropriately
designed ground floor units, but as a as an actual active program element in this location.
I think they make a lot of sense, and Alex the narrative the narrative's description, and then also what you presented today.
About how the scale of the facade of the building of the openings in the wall are being manipulated to respond to the context.
That that that was thoughtful. and so the fact that the commercial space is bracketing the corners, and there is some ground floor, residential as infill.
I came around pretty quickly to think that that actually worked really well, and it improved the buildings context.
Response. public realm generally. I think these are the guidelines that the project best meets.
I was a little bit worried about waste and recycling and some of the utilities.
You know the building utilities that's going to be managed during operations, and I have no doubt that the the property manager will manage that successfully, because everybody wants this to be an attractive, successful development.
So the fact that that is being, you know, outsourced to property management makes a lot of sense.
I was especially pleased with the this project's response to guideline Number 4 design the sidewalk level of buildings to be active in human scaled.
Hannah, your staff report has a really good support for this guideline.
Alex, Your narrative reads in this we think our project excels, and I think you're right.
I think it really does. I think that that is like the strongest guideline response that this project has guideline number 4 active sidewalk level, and then you know everything else that other commissioners have said I agree with and
Brian, I appreciate your experiences in this neighborhood.
Thank you very much for sharing them. Thank you, Julie Sari.
Gonna make sure i'm unmuted I totally agree with what's being said up to this point by other commissioners.
I think what I found about this project is that the site, planning and connectivity that emb is embodied in the site.
Planning is the foundation for this whole development. and it's been done so skillfully and thoughtfully that it has led to, and and the combination of that and good programming architectural programming, especially on the ground.
Level has really led to a fantastic public round design solutions that, in my view, meets all the gu guidelines related to public.
Round as well as the contact it's the manipulation of the building.
Careful attention to. to making sure the first 2 would. 3 levels are more human scale relating to adjacent single family area.
So I think those foundation really help the the team and this project to then focus on the details which, in my view, are really well executed.
To achieve the compliance with them, both contacts and public round guidelines.
So I I graduate the team for doing a well Great job.
Thank you, siri. Don. yeah, I think this project really sells in the public realm is of the 3 design tents.
I think they really knocked this one with the ballpark and did a wonderful job, and somebody pointed out a struggle with the site plan, which I think is really well thought out and the details.
I think, and as goes around the whole building, not not just on 90 s, but also on the south side and the north side.
Oh, really strong Those townhouses, I think, are oh, really attractive!
And maybe one of the best design elements in in the project.
Frankly. and I think along Ladies 90 s Street.
The 2 love jewel box retails on the corners.
I think, are really nicely done, and I think they actually have a chance of maybe being successful.
The one in the middle. Yeah, that one's gonna be a tough one to fill.
But you might luck out and find attend for that also but maybe There can be a use within the building for that space workout room, or something like that. in the event that you can't find a tenant for it.
Yeah. And I think also the patios along both ninety-second and both.
And then on the north and south for the ground floor units are really well done.
They're above the street level, and they're set back and there seems to be enough room to actually use them which a lot of times they're not you know.
So I think that's again one of the real strengths of this one.
Yeah, again, I think. this package is really quite thorough.
It's remarkable you've gone through thought through a lot of the details.
Without a lot of prompting from the Design Commission.
But maybe that all came from Anna i'm not sure but again.
The public around. My thing is extraordinarily successful in this project.
Thank you, thank you, Tom, and I i'll finish up by saying that I agree with.
I've been I agreed in all the comments there's no point in adding anything to it.
I think, the corners are well put together. I think the general layout of the of the site plan is is well thought out, and it works really well.
So with that I think i'll i'll move back to Jessica again on on on context.
Wait 10 min. I know we kind of went backwards, but I got confused.
I haven't done this in a while I think that it response.
Really well stick up the context primarily because of those townhound units.
You do a great job at street level of bringing the scale down to something more similar to the single family homes that are across the street?
And then, of course, fits in really well with the other new mixed use buildings that are built nearby.
Similar amassing, and unfortunately, I think the same, probably probably same height as those buildings.
But with the zoning code thing. So yeah, Okay, Yeah.
I think the massing concept, and if Alex, you could put your rendered axon up no!
The rendered one the one that's fully illustrated.
Yeah, yeah, right there there's one from another yeah that one that one.
So I think the massing is just super strong. Very well, thought out.
Where you want an urban street wall for continuity with the newer.
The other newer buildings to the south of here and the town.
Sander, that's where the big the big wing of the Al defines it, and then to step down to the townhouses to wrap around a courtyard and have fantastic fantastic solar access is
just you know it's just great and I don't I don't know if you guys remember we've seen so many re recent since the 2035 zoning code came out we've seen so many
recent sites. It seems like we're the building that takes up the entire site, and the open space is a is a leftover somewhere at the edge of something, and doesn't look like a place anybody wants to be in this this site plan looks like
the courtyard was the centerpiece of of the massing concept, and I really appreciate that in terms of in terms of kind of a bigger picture.
Context. I think you know, if you look at if you look at this area a dozen years ago there was so little left of the town center, and, you know, an urban renewal out here, struggle to get going for such a long
time that I think an entirely new you know a new context that's urban and pedestrian oriented is being is being built.
It's being implemented, and to underscore something Julie said a minute ago.
There is a few examples of the recent newer buildings where they did try to do residential at street level without all the the stoops, the privacy, wall, the Larry and the landscaping that This project is
proposing and it's got that uncomfortable situation with a door that opens right onto a sidewalk and window shades.
They're permanently closed, and so it doesn't really achieve eyes on the street that that I think we all want to see.
So my hats off to the design team for really thinking through that stuff, I I I think the break between the first 2 stories and the upper 3 works really well, and then the vertical breaks in terms of breaking up the
long mass is works very well, and and just clustering together of
You know the expression of some vertical tilesters of the white Sarah clad, running through, and then the recess darker materials and colors that I think it's just it's all reinforcing it really
well totally appreciate the up the top side. of the of this of the ground for residential having actually a terrorist open to the sun for the units up there.
I think that's just fantastic, and it it does set the taller mass of the building back a little a little way some 90 s.
So all of those moves are just really well thought out.
And I think very, very much in line with the guidelines.
Thank you, Brian. Jerry. We need to
You muted
A much more to add to the previous comments. with one just one exception, which is the connectivity in the of circulation pedestrian ways in this project is just exceptional.
Both within the project, and how it relates to existing pedestrian ways.
I didn't have to create that but pedestrian ways, but they did that, because because it really connects 90 s avenue to multi-modal path along the highway.
So it's it's been again it's been soft fall and then well executed.
And I I I think they, in my view, they have really contextually have met the guidelines.
As Brian said, the way the massing is broken up in the first 2 or 3 levels to relate to residential area, and then the upper area sort of relates to newer buildings that will have already been built so
actually in my room. It really not only needs the existing context, but also sets a very good presence for the sheep buildings in the area.
Thank you, sir. Don. Yeah. Well, I think that as Brian mentioned the mass in is really successful, and I thank you.
We talk about the public realm. but there's also the private realm, and the courtyard really does a wonderful job in the private round for this particular project.
We don't see that very often. but the options that are are proposed.
You know the kitchen, the play area, the dog run, etc.
This is pretty well thought out. It should be pretty successful and I think used by the tennis which doesn't happen a lot of times in these court yards.
They're just past this, but this one I think warren's actual use.
So highly supportive of that I wondered on the upper portion.
If you could have been more balcony or Yup.
But both of the type of that extends out as well as maybe just a my glass piece going in front of doors.
Could have related to the neighborhood a little bit better.
It just seems like you. You only have it on that one level.
Button facts, it might have been better to extend it.
Some of those up into the upper 4 is also because this this is a pretty quiet area, as I understand, and you've got the freeway in the back. but this doesn't relate to the freeway.
Anyways, you know, not really relevant to this one you've got 90 s, which, as I understand, is a fairly quiet street, busy at certain times of the day.
But the rest of the time is quite quiet, and then up from the context also.
Well, I wonder, you know when I Look at what you've included the contemporary context on sheet 67.
You've got some pretty interesting architectural buildings designs in this area to relate to.
But it just seems like you haven't really picked up on as much as you might have in here, and made this a proportion, perhaps a little more playful and looser than it is it almost has a slight
Lloyd district character with the strong vertical.
So. those are my only And so in context of this time, Thank you.
Don Chandra.
Looking at it first. I didn't really think that it responded to the cars, or can find anything that was specific to the neighborhood.
And there are a lot of buildings that I feel like could be in any place.
But Alex described the portches, and I could then see that and say that.
Yes, it has to do. There are single family comes right across the street and other things, but it's it's in a neighborhood with that small scale, and with these sort of great buildings plucked in occasionally and so sounds
good that I I I got there on contact. so I think it really is responding.
And then something else that Julie brought up earlier that site planning and understanding that something's gonna be built.
That's you know on a landlock site and that you've already planned for that I think that that also shows that you've responded to the contacts and understand what's happening in the future.
So. I am good with contacts I did want to bring back one more item that really is more about public round than there was an image where you could see where the cyprus is in front of the light and i'm concerned that
that Cyprus is just gonna block out the light in a couple of years, when it grows tall.
So either property management has to you know. Term it every year, so that stays below the white, and then it's not dark and near on that elevation right?
It should still feel bright and safe. So I would say the back needs to be trimmed constantly, so that it's narrow but short, and never call, which also means maybe you want a different plant there, because the character of the site
versus tall and Skinny, but I think it's just gonna walk the straight lines, and that's it, thank you, Shauna.
And then Julie, I think you had want to talk about this, but also some other things a little bit more general.
Thanks. am so I agree entirely with brian's comments about building massing zeri's comments about connectivity and don't architectural critique.
And so you know, Hannah, you pointed out that the the new citywide design guidelines that are context guidelines.
Are you a lot about site design, And I think the site design here is really very strong.
You? asked Tana about the the row houses in their response to the food hall.
I think the row houses are like one of the best moves on the entire site. plan.
The Row houses are just really a good site planning strategy.
They are also architecturally very elegant. That pedestrian path that connects from 90.
Second to I. 205 is a massive benefit for the entire community.
I think that that's just a great generosity on this developments part, and then the the way that parking and the driveway and the phase 2 development have kind of already been pre-considered.
I think, is just really fantastic. however. So the the thing about these new guidelines are so interesting.
Guideline, 3 integrate and enhance on-site features and opportunities to contribute to a location's, uniqueness.
Brian, I was really glad to hear your thoughts on him.
How the building fits into the neighborhood, because when I was reviewing this, I really struggled with the context guidelines, and the fact that this building seems to be responding to a context that is a context of new
multifamily development in this neighborhood rather than a response to the uniqueness of lengths. We spent a lot of years working on these guidelines, and the the big motivator.
Behind these guidelines was the fact that Portland is losing the unique character of all of its neighborhoods.
Portland is just becoming very much the same from neighborhood to neighborhood.
It, and architecturally I agree with Don. This building could be anywhere in the city of Portland.
There. you know it is doing a lot to respond to the immediate context.
There's no doubt about it. but architecturally it could be anywhere in the city of Portland and you know, I I wonder if our guidelines are Are they weak?
There i'm just not sure i'm looking forward to having a retreat with commissioners.
So that we can discuss this, and Alex this building this is a great project.
This building doesn't bring the architectural energy that I have come to expect from Yba.
I was kind of surprised at at how conservative it is especially because it is in lens, and there is a lot of new development around.
So you know it's not that context guidelines aren't being met.
I it's, Maybe it's more about the points that Hannah made in in the staff report that there's been so much destruction, you know.
Maybe there just isn't a whole lot to respond. to yet, because this is such a transitional area. And so maybe this current wave of multifamily development is the thing that is going to establish or reestablish a context and if that's the
case this building's got it going on with public realm and really great site design.
So I think that it is potentially strong. I do appreciate the criticism from the person who provided written testimony about You know the kind of 5 over one developments, and the fact that we are developing a lot of equal
height buildings in this area, and there are several neighborhoods around town where this is happening.
This is not limited to lens so that's that's just a function of the market, right?
I mean that we are people are building what they can afford to build right now at some point that may that may change.
That's all I have to say. thank you very much. thank you. Julie and I I I mean I agree with the the Commissioners. I think all the my fellow Commissioners that the I think the way this building is cited and how it responds to its
immediate context is fantastic. I I think i'm with you Julie.
I think this is a neighborhood that is being rebuilt from the ground up.
So the context is being built as we speak it's it just the the fabric was completely destroyed.
It was one of those where there's nothing to to to tie it to, and these are the buildings that I'm gonna tie the rest of the stuff that gets built. So it's an in and in that sense.
I think it does it does really Well, in the context that it's that it's contributing to It is a little bit more conservative than some of the others I think I think don you were going in that right to when you
were asking Now it's a little bit more what he was he picking up from architecturally.
But I I also believe that some buildings are background, buildings, and this one does is a background building with a phenomenal response to the immediate context and and and and the public round.
So I think it does a very job. at it with with that i'm gonna give we're gonna go to quality and permanence. and Jessica.
So if you could talk about the the materials, particularly the issue of the Sarah, clad on the ground floor versus, you know, changing the materiality there for permanence purposes. and then, the byte shelter.
I know that you have a full tim that you need to That's why I wanted to get you first.
So I wasn't picking on you Yeah, Okay, so for me for quality and resilience.
First for me guideline 7, which happens to be part of quality and resilience, but is about thoughtful site and buildings.
Design is the best by far the guideline that is the most well met.
And I think this project really excels at that guideline.
And then as far as the materials on the ground floor.
I agree with Staff. I think Sarah Cloud is a pretty tough, good, tough material, but because it does have that coding and get stinged up.
Prepare is not as easy as just painting so if they're. if they can work to find an alternative material just for the inside of the alcoves that are most likely to get beat up.
On the other hand, if that if the testifier is right no one's ever going to put furniture up there, because it'll disappear, then maybe they don't need to put in a difference here, and then otherwise, I
think my only other concern or issues were the balconies on the third floor.
I've been struggling with those from a coherentcy perspective.
But you know there's a guideline that mentions uniqueness, and i'm interpreting that as a little bit.
These are I I guess they they They perform a good service.
They provide people with an opportunity to open up their units and get fresh air, which we've talked about a lot, So so i'm definitely in favor of keeping them.
And I think I just talk to myself and to not worry about that one.
And then as far as the rest of the materials I don't really have any concerns except for the perforated metal, which is hard to tell.
It's hard to see in that photo of the window assembly that has that perforated metal in it.
But if Staff feels comfortable with it, having seen many different versions of these lover covers, and then i'm okay with it.
Thank you, Jessica. yeah, brian yeah I'd like to piggyback on to Jessica's comments and not repeat them.
I think pretty much in line with everything she said, and
A shout out, I really like the horizontal board formed concrete in the Street level.
Planters acting as that kind of more rustic material transition from public sidewalk up into somebody's unit, where the where there's more refined materials.
I think that's a nice touch you know I I look at board form concrete is kind of a material kind of in between architecture and landscape.
Because it's got that kind of rustic organic quality, and if the plants kind of droop down over it or grow up on it, I think that's great.
I will say on the bike shed that I thank you.
I kept seeing the note that said Black, cmu but I kept seeing screen green in the elevation, and I finally stumbled across something that took me too long. that that's intended to have vines growing out.
I I believe. so. you know, after after thinking about that and looking at the way the module of solid cmu, And then other kind of grill work materials. I think it's actually a pretty nice solution Yeah, right right?
There. I think I think that's nice it it it just recedes that whole little building kind of recedes into kind of a landscape building.
It's not shining a lot of attention on itself.
But it's doing a very good job of giving an eastern edge to the courtyard, so you don't have to look out at the front end of cars or up into I 205 and all that other stuff so
I just think it's it's really what all the materials are really well thought out, Thank you, Brian.
Chandra.
I agree with what has inside by previous questions. Okay, I can't hear, Sandra? she said.
She agrees with it with everybody. Everybody, Everybody else said great
Sarah, I I I, too, agree with everything everybody else said.
But I also need to add that I want to comment on the quality of landscaping quality and quantity, which again, very nicely.
And to me this bike structure is almost like a gardenship, and with vines growing on that, it's it would be an amenity. and for for the plaza what I wanna encourage please consider having
some sort of some functional art included in the plaza area that would better meet the guidelines, but also it's important to have for facility of this scale.
And this quality to have arts or water included in their development.
Thank you, Sarah. Don i'm i'm essentially in dreaming with a lot of what I've heard again.
Just quick reference back to context, as the real strength of this project has been in doing the little things extraordinarily.
Well, the decks. what's going on with the landscaping the private courtyard and all the rest.
But there was just a I. but I think it came at the cost of maybe the overall architectural concept for the building itself, which maybe a little unfortunate.
But but everything else has done so well that I think the chicken at the public realm, as it kind of overshadows it.
Material wise. I don't have any issues I think if you can protect the bottom of the walls along 90 s
Well, I guess you have to some extent, because what you have is the planters which our durable is hacking off a skateboarder.
It's one of those it's not gonna hurt that Wall, a whole lot.
So. yeah. On the other hand, right next to the coffee shop where the side material comes down, you may want to protect that area a little bit from aberration, etc.
Trucks that sort of thing i'd like it coming all the way down.
But it's gonna be a little bit vulnerable but on the upper floors.
I think it all works really well the materials no problem with them.
So Okay, and then, general, I said could work for a while. and I think having some of these this wouldn't seats, those are gonna hold up fairly well, too.
If they're treated with the appropriate material installation.
And hopefully, Yeah, you probably need to have some skateboarded guards on those.
Also keep them from skimming across the front of her.
And but the planners are high enough. you probably don't have to worry about that which is good.
So I'm in support of the materials you've used I think they're gonna hold up Well, the windows and service.
So no issues from my site. Julie, Thanks, Sam.
So the quality and permanence guidelines I mean guideline Number 7.
Jessica is you noted Guideline Number 7 is the site, site and building design guideline and
I think, everything that everyone has said about how well the site plan and the courtyard are performing, is absolutely true.
And in fact, this development is exactly what we were hoping to achieve in neighborhoods where the design overlay applies.
When we crafted this guideline it's just fantastic to see how well a project can accomplish that guideline.
It is done so so well, so great work on guideline.
Number 7 materials you know hannah your staff report notes that you know It's coherent.
It's restrained it's not overly busy architecture, you know, as I said earlier, I also think it's not responding as fully to place as it might.
But then again, you know, is, is there is there a place that it can respond to right now.
So i'm gonna just like shelve that thought and and just acknowledge that everything else about this is just super.
Well done resilience, health, and stewardship of the environment.
It would be great if the panels solar panels happened on the roof.
But, Alex, as you move forward. and you have you know i'm sure immense.
Finish challenges making this happen it's got to be really hard to make this project Pencil much better to lose the stuff at the top of the building than to lose anything at the ground floor of the building or anything that touches the
public realm. Hannah, you asked about the bike shelter is very, really nice comparison. The the bike shelter really kind of performs as a garden shed might, I actually think this is a really great amenity for the
residents. Yeah, it's big but the fact, that everybody can see it. And it's easy to access. probably means that bike ridership is going to go up for residents who live in this building because it's
just so present, and it's not it's not on the frontage right?
It's not on 90 s avenue which would just be a real tragedy.
So it works really well where it's located on the on the site plan.
And I will follow whatever Jessica and Don recommend in terms of ground floor materials.
If if you are recommending Sarah clad as appropriate then i'm okay with that.
If folks want to go with a condition of approval for something else, I'm okay with that, as well, that's it.
Yeah, I mean, I I agree with that. What everybody said.
I I love Sarah's comparison to a shed sort of like someone's garden shed in the back.
I perfectly located. I think there is the right right touching materiality without you know it's not overdone.
It's not underdone on the on the the Sarah clad.
I I I think mixing materials just gets messy and and
I almost. I I think I would prefer to leave it all as Sarah Clan and and hope for the maintenance that you know this this ground for will require.
But I think we probably need to sort of look at everybody else.
So I mean, because we really need to give Hannah.
It's you know direction as to where whether we should put in the at the amendment.
So I mean at this point What i'm hearing is that just like you're okay with keeping the Sarah Cloud.
No, quite
Okay, so. and don is you're okay, I mean i'm just okay.
Sorry, Jessica. not the point you're okay with the Sarah Cloud, and says, Yeah, I think so. I mean there's some vulnerable spots, particularly on this commercial area.
Ninety-second. But I wonder if that's just something you live with, and if they get beat up you replace them.
Okay, it's better just to have them run right straight down to the sidewalk.
That's my that's a good point actually because it's not a busy commercial area.
I think that makes a difference if it was you know on Foster or on a really busy street where it's going to get a lot of activity.
People riding bikes on the sidewalk, and you know, skateboard whatever.
Then the potential part damage would be a lot greater. frequent damage would be a lot greater.
But since this isn't really into one of those places maybe it's okay, Okay, So I think i'm i'm hearing that Brian seems to be okay.
Shanda. you were nodding as okay, to yeah I I mean, I think trapping and adding in a new material is kind of tough. We could do the whole kind of interior surround because it's really just the interior when the chair is someone's
Sc. I don't think the outer sort of you know piles or things I don't think that would have to change, but it looks like it's gray on the inside wrap, and then white on the outside wrap right
so I would hope you could find a gray that was easy to do it.
I didn't look at what the software was but that looks like a different material anyway.
So you're thinking that they should be I put on on the inside or some other material on the inside. I mean right now.
There's a lot of people on there but on that street. but you know this building is going to be here a while, and there's gonna be more activity, and it seems like if you can just replace those 2 panels on the inside
of the notch. I wasn't thinking it was that big of a deal before.
But this is a really big building. There are going to be so many more people in here.
If it's 92 units and you know families and whatnot there's gonna be a lot of activity just because this building is right now.
So i'm i'm thinking you want them to material change Yeah, I could be overruled them
Kind of leaning towards not changing the material i'm leading towards, not only because of where, because i'm not expecting there to be, and but maybe Shanghai's right as much actually as we would see on a on a busier
street Good! Could I ask our our 3 esteemed architects?
Cause I don't have a feel for this could the alternative tougher material.
Be nicely integrated with the Sara clan, I mean in terms of where they but together, and all that kind of stuff and corners. because if it could, I could support a condition like that, I just would like to know that it material sickness and
edge detail, and everything could could be done in a way that's simple and consistent.
That's what worries me. is that i'm not sure i'm not sure you I mean you almost want me to be completely different right rather than I think it it can be done I think to struggle is we
don't we can't dictate how somebody is going to do it.
We can say, you know it needs to be a cementitious panel of X thickness, but that's about.
I think the extent of what we can do, and it consider.
I hate, I guess now i'm talking myself into being because, considering all of the other drawings, and how much thought has been put into all of this to throw another material in as a sentence at the end of the staff
report for this seems not okay. I agree with you.
Jess and I I too, you know they have been so meticulous in terms of detailing.
I'm making everything work and they've been thoughtful about it that just this area that are on the size and they're not belonged to street. the The parts that is along the street has a tree right in front of it so
so I I i'd rather see it completely clean and and uncluttered by I love their material.
So I my school. I think that it should be left the way it has been designed.
I think. I think Tim, we have a nose count wise. What i'm hearing is that we should leave it as is, and not at the amendment panel.
I agree with that Okay, Commissioners, I was just gonna offer, you know, like I think the applicant and and staff have heard a lot of discussion about this particular item.
And so when this comes in for permit and there's any nuances, and the applicant team consider some comments and comes up with a another very well accomplished, small detail, i'm sure staff could be able to fold
that into a the permit set not not have so much of it to do about it, and we'll leave it at Hannis.
This I mean staff's discretion down the road so Is there anything we've Miss Hannah, that we need to discuss?
I don't I think We've come into all the good at all.
Thank you so much.
So does anybody want to make a motion for us I'll make a motion to approve the project for the staff report?
Second. Thank you, Laura
Sandra.
Unmuted i'm an I and I wanna say a couple of things.
When I reviewed this project I was shockingly surprised that this project, what did not come for Da R.
But it in my from my perspective, Mick. Oh, all the guidelines!
So I it's really do you think good staff direction and or that are new guidelines.
Community. Guidelines are really written in such a way that a good talented architect, by meeting that can easily achieve what is required of them.
So, whatever we do is I am, I am very, very pleased with this cry, Jack, and a resounding i.
Livingston. I sorry I agree with what you just said.
I mean Apparently the guidelines are strong and i'm, sure that there was a lot of discussion between Hannah and the applicant before that staff report was final and this project landed in the hearings room.
Hannah and Alex I can. We can probably measure the period of time since a project came through a type 3 that did not require any conditions of the standard conditions, and that had no modifications.
We could probably measure that time in years rather than you know.
Certainly not week, certainly not month it's probably been years so they're just.
This appears to be an incredibly well coordinated project.
And a really great response to guidelines pretty much all way round.
Thank you very much. I vote I sure I also vote I and just want to say that I agree with both Jerry and Julie Commissioner Robinson.
Alright, it's a good project thank you commissioner carter I also enthusiastically vote I and echo what i'll add this little tidbit you know of the half a dozen big buildings
that have been built in the town center over the last several years.
This to me is setting a new bar of expectation about site planning public realm, public private transition that I really don't see that's skillfully done in previous projects.
And so I see this as raising the bar up. And so the projects that come after this are gonna have to take a hard look at this project and and come up to this level.
So my hands off to the design team i'm sure yes, I agree with a lot of the comments.
Thanks, Brian, for what you have put together on this one.
Yeah, the the presentation was incredibly complete. and it was very few pieces that we had to take a guess at, or what's really going on around this corner, etc.
So thank you for putting such a complete presentation together, and also a really well and beautifully detailed project.
Thank you, and share what we get. I and again I echo my colleagues. it's a wonderful project Congratulations
Congratulations. Yeah. So I think we have so do I have to yeah I'm.
The one i'm the master of ceremony or the unmaster of ceremony.
Well, thank you. Team. thank you, Hannah. Thank you.
Laura and and Tim, and my colleagues, of course, and Alex, for such a great presentation.