15:05:45 So just keep that in mind. Be mindful of any language used. 15:05:45 With that said, I'm going to go ahead and begin recording. 15:05:47 >> Recording in progress. 15:05:59 >> NIKI: OK. Thank you, everyone, for waiting. 15:06:03 We do have Marisa listed for the roll call on this agenda. 15:06:06 However, Marisa is joining us by phone. 15:06:09 So I'm going to go ahead and take care of that for us. 15:06:12 And when I call your name, if you can please unmute and indicate verbally 15:06:17 that you are here. Ashley Miller. 15:06:28 Rachel Nehse. >> Present. 15:06:29 >> NIKI: Rachel. Taylor Smiley Wolfe. 15:06:42 Aida Jimenez. Allan Lazo. 15:06:46 >> Good afternoon, everyone. I'm here. 15:06:47 >> NIKI: Hi, Allan. Barbara Geyer. 15:06:51 >> Hi. I'm here. 15:06:55 >> NIKI: Hi, Barbara. Becky Straus. 15:07:01 >> Here. >> NIKI: Thank Dung Ho. 15:07:02 >> Hello. Present. 15:07:07 >> NIKI: Ellen Toland. Holly Stephens. 15:07:19 Jamila Rutherford. >> Here. 15:07:28 >> NIKI: Mara Romero. >> Here. 15:07:31 >> NIKI: Hi, Mara. Marisa Espinoza. 15:07:37 >> Hi, everybody. I'm here. 15:07:40 >> NIKI: Hi, Marisa. Vera Warren. 15:07:57 And Fanny Adams. Fanny, could you unmute? 15:08:04 >> This is Fanny. 15:08:11 I'm representing Multnomah County. I work with the CDBG program. 15:08:12 >> NIKI: Thank you. Let me double-check quorum since we 15:08:19 are closed. Great. 15:08:24 And we have hit quorum. So with that we can officially call 15:08:29 this meeting to order. And Jay is going to help us mover 15:08:34 through our agenda and facilitate this meeting today. 15:08:41 >> JAMILA: I guess we'll get started with the updates, then. 15:08:44 >> NIKI: Back and forth -- thank you, Jay. 15:08:51 Just a few items to update you all on since our last meeting in January. 15:08:56 If you recall, everyone was able to take a look at the areas of assessment 15:09:02 and analysis in what we're calling the Portland Fair Housing Plan. 15:09:06 Thank you everyone who sent back e-mails and took time to read through 15:09:10 that memo again after the meeting. I did collect that feedback and we 15:09:17 gave it to the project team that is working on the Portland Fair Housing 15:09:20 Plan. So far we have begun meeting here in 15:09:25 the bureau and we will be ready to start presenting those areas of 15:09:28 assessment to you beginning at the next meeting. 15:09:34 We have the demographic summary slated for the July meeting and the 15:09:40 low-income household analysis and the disproportionate housing needs 15:09:48 analysis slated for October. We can look at the recommends made in 15:09:53 2011, look at other policy ideas that may be suggested and get everyone's 15:09:59 feedback on this committee and your thoughts on that and any suggestions 15:10:01 that you would like to make -- your recommendations. 15:10:04 I wanted to give you the update that things are moving and will continue to 15:10:09 get your feedback as we move throughout the process. 15:10:15 Next item I'm going to skip down and talk about committee member bios 15:10:17 first. Every advisory body that we have at 15:10:21 the housing bureau has a web page and as part of that web page there is a 15:10:27 meet the commissioners or meet the committee members that lists out short 15:10:33 bios of each committee member and then has a headshot or small photo next to 15:10:36 it. So far for FHAC we have not had one. 15:10:40 And we would like to get something posted on the website. 15:10:46 So I'm giving you all heads-up that I'm going to send out an e-mail. 15:10:53 I'll link you to an example of probably the rental services commission that 15:10:58 has a similar web page, get a feel for what the end product will be and if 15:11:04 you could take a few moments to give me your bios and photo you would like 15:11:06 featured on the Portland Housing Bureau website. 15:11:08 I'll send that e-mail out this week and hoping to get them by the end of the 15:11:21 month. And then -- go ahead. 15:11:25 >> MARA: Will those need to be professional head shots? 15:11:30 Are there conditions for the photos? Because of the pandemic, it's been 15:11:33 hard getting a photo. >> NIKI: You can get an idea of the 15:11:36 different types of photos that can be seen on the example page. 15:11:38 I don't think that they are all professional. 15:11:41 I think you have something that's high quality that you don't mind shown, you 15:11:46 know, that obviously looks nice and appropriate for the context in which 15:11:52 it's being used but doesn't necessarily need to be, you know, high-end 15:11:53 photography quality. >> MARA: Cool. 15:11:55 I'll take a look at the examples. Thank you. 15:11:58 >> NIKI: No problem. Does anybody else have any questions 15:12:07 about those committee member bios? OK. 15:12:11 Awesome. And the last item that I have for you 15:12:18 regarding updates is reappointments. So, if you'll recall, pretty much 15:12:23 everyone on this committee was appointed in September of 2020 and 15:12:27 it's for a two-year term. That means coming this September we 15:12:32 are coming up to the end of most of our committee members' terms. 15:12:35 That will be expiring in September. You know, I know that we still have a 15:12:40 lot of work left to do and I hope everyone is still interested in being 15:12:43 reappointed. We're certainly interested in having 15:12:45 everyone here. But if anybody doesn't want to be 15:12:49 reappointed for a new term, I would like enough of a heads-up that we 15:12:55 could do proper recruitment to fill any of those vacant seats. 15:13:00 So, on that note, I will also send an e-mail regarding reappointments to 15:13:08 continue thinking about that and moving forward from 2022 to 2024. 15:13:14 The general FHAC schedule seems to continue to be on a quarterly basis. 15:13:20 But Jay is going to lead us through a conversation as you can see on the 15:13:25 agenda towards the end of the meeting about committee and other 15:13:28 opportunities for increased involvement. 15:13:29 It would continue to be the same meeting frequency of a quarterly 15:13:40 basis. >> JAMILA: Next we're going to have 15:13:54 Niki speak with us about the Proclamation of Fair Housing. 15:14:02 >> MATTHEW: I want to publicly acknowledge Niki Luneclair for putting 15:14:07 together the Fair Housing Proclamation, coordinating the whole thing. 15:14:13 I want to thank Allan Lazo and our partners at the Fair Housing Council 15:14:14 of Oregon for participating. I wanted to put that comment on the 15:14:22 record. >> NIKI: Thank you, Matt. 15:14:27 I appreciate that. Yeah, well, I sent out an event 15:14:34 calendar to all of you, a calendar event for inviting you to view the 15:14:38 Proclamation of Fair Housing Month for April 2022 at City Council. 15:14:43 I'm not sure how many folks were able to livestream that on YouTube. 15:14:48 If you did, please do feel free to raise your hand and share your 15:14:54 thoughts on the presentation. But overall I thought that it went 15:15:01 very well. We had Commissioner Dan Ryan comment. 15:15:03 Matthew gave a wonderful presentation 15:15:05 on behalf of the Portland Housing Bureau and really stressed some of the 15:15:10 greatest inequities that we see in the housing market, particularly for Black 15:15:14 Portlanders. And then comments were also made by 15:15:16 our fellow committee member Allan Lazo. 15:15:23 So I wanted to invite Allan to kind of speak on the importance of Fair 15:15:27 Housing Month and Fair Housing Council of Oregon's participation and kind of 15:15:32 remind us of the importance of April and taking that time and that pause in 15:15:36 City Council. After Allan's comments, I have a few 15:15:41 of the posters to share with you from the Fair Housing poster contest that I 15:15:41 thought would be fun for anyone who wasn't able to catch it. 15:15:51 So, with that, Allan, do you want to jump in and speak about your 15:15:59 experience at city council? >> ALLAN: I'm trapped in my car 15:16:04 between events. I'm sorry I look a little funny. 15:16:08 The poster is so fun and bright and beautiful this year. 15:16:14 It's such a pleasure always to go to city council and talk about the poster 15:16:20 contest and get opportunity to display the vision that these young artists 15:16:22 have around how we might create neighborhoods that are for everyone, 15:16:27 which was the theme for the event this year. 15:16:32 Really, really inspiring to see what the young artists bring forward. 15:16:38 As I noted at city council and as the proclamation notes, we celebrate April 15:16:43 for Fair Housing Month because this is the month the Federal Fair Housing Act 15:16:48 was passed in 1968 in April. While we can celebrate this month, we 15:16:55 know the work around Fair Housing is far from done, including right here in 15:16:59 our own town of Portland. As Niki said, Matt highlight and the 15:17:04 proclamation highlights many different institutional and systemic aspects 15:17:09 that drove the need for the Fair Housing Act in the mid part of the 15:17:12 20th century. While none of us were part of those 15:17:17 systemic or institutional practices, we weren't there for red-lining or 15:17:23 steering or segregation, we know that those practices and the inequities 15:17:27 they have created continue today. So while the work in this community 15:17:38 isn't to end those kind of practices, those explicit practices of yester 15:17:47 year, our work is to end the -- we here at the part in the City of 15:17:54 Portland Housing Bureau -- end systemic practices that continue 15:17:59 today. We can change the hearts and minds we 15:18:05 want to and that can help make our community better, it won't create real 15:18:09 access to opportunity until we can address those systemic and 15:18:16 institutional changes that are implicit in today's policies and practices, 15:18:17 including the City of Portland, including the Portland Housing Bureau, 15:18:20 including lots of other places in our community. 15:18:26 So that's the work in front of us. Again, we take a moment to celebrate 15:18:32 the passage of the Fair Housing Act today and we get back to work ending 15:18:41 those continuing inequities that are a result of many different policies and 15:18:42 practices. Niki, thank you for the opportunity to 15:18:45 continue to move us forward and cheer us on. 15:18:48 I'm so excited about this work and I love April, despite the running around 15:18:54 that it means for me. >> NIKI: Thank you, Allan. 15:19:00 Your participation is always a wonderful part of the proclamation and 15:19:04 the presentation and especially all of the work that Fair Housing Council Of 15:19:09 Oregon does to organize the poster contest, which is definitely a 15:19:13 highlight. So I'll go ahead and share my screen 15:19:19 so we can look at those. I'm on a single screen today, so I'm 15:19:32 sorry if I shared the Zoom itself there. 15:19:44 So this first poster was done by Quinn Avery English. 15:19:48 This was the first through third grade category, and she was the first place 15:19:51 winner. So I just shared everybody who did the 15:19:56 first place for these purposes today. There are more posters to look at on 15:20:04 our website, if you're interested. But very cute, wonderful. 15:20:06 The rainbow, embrace diversity. Really great job done here. 15:20:22 Next poster is by Ruth Baldwin. This was the grade 4 and 5 poster 15:20:25 category winner. >> So cute. 15:20:29 >> NIKI: Yes, very cute. Neighborhoods are for everyone. 15:20:34 We've got a cyclops here, we've got some cones, we've got aliens, 15:20:37 rainbows, dinosaurs. I think I even see a pirate ship in 15:20:42 the back there. 15:20:47 >> So cute. >> NIKI: This was the grand prize 15:20:54 winner for all categories. I believe this was cocreated between 15:20:59 bailen stack and Keira Fryer. And this has so much detail. 15:21:04 It's very beautiful. I hope that you guys can see it. 15:21:10 It is super impressive. Again, it has neighborhoods are for 15:21:15 everyone at the bottom and a lot of intricate details on all of these 15:21:20 different types of structures and dwellings and houses. 15:21:24 >> JAMILA: What able group is this? >> NIKI: This was the overall grand 15:21:33 prize winner. If I recall Bailen and Keira were six 15:21:41 to eight -- >> They were eighth graders. 15:21:46 >> NIKI: I believe French international school. 15:21:54 >> ALLAN: French emerging school. >> NIKI: I'll follow up and share 15:21:55 that. You can also go back to the YouTube 15:21:59 channel if you wanted to watch the proclamation and all of the 15:22:03 commissioners' comments. Everybody did take a moment to share 15:22:05 and express the importance of Fair Housing. 15:22:10 I'll also link you to the website where you can read the proclamation itself 15:22:14 and go through the slides, including Matthew's comments and all of the 15:22:26 poster contest winners. >> JAMILA: Next, we're going to have 15:22:29 public comment, if there are any. I don't know if -- Niki is going to 15:22:35 lead us through that, although I don't know that there's anyone signed up for 15:22:40 public comments. >> NIKI: As of now, we do not. 15:22:44 But we can go ahead and open the floor for anyone to raise their hand or come 15:22:47 off mute from the public who is joining us who would like to provide public 15:23:02 comment. And then maybe, Jay, because we did 15:23:05 advertise the 3:30 p.m. time, what we could do is you could 15:23:10 lead us through the next part of the agenda and then maybe we just check in 15:23:13 sometime between that 3:30 and 4:00 window and just make sure that nobody 15:23:17 has hopped on for purposes of giving public comment. 15:23:19 >> JAMILA: The next part of the agenda is -- is it subcommittees? 15:23:30 >> NIKI: Yes, that is our final item we are moving through today. 15:23:33 >> JAMILA: Do you have the spreadsheet? 15:23:35 >> NIKI: If you want the specific spreadsheet -- 15:23:38 otherwise, I have the two topics that were most popular. 15:23:39 >> JAMILA: Yeah. >> NIKI: Yes. 15:23:45 >> JAMILA: So I think it was the last time we proposed doing the 15:23:49 subcommittee or doing several subcommittees and Niki sent out a 15:23:54 survey and we all took it. I think most of us did. 15:23:57 And a couple of committees rose to the top. 15:24:01 I just -- just to refresh my memory, I think we were going to choose one, but 15:24:07 we decided to bring both of them to the group and see if we wanted to, A, do 15:24:12 both or if we wanted to decide that we're going to do one of the 15:24:14 subcommittees. So that's where we are. 15:24:18 So, Niki, what are the two that rose to the top? 15:24:24 >> NIKI: Two most interested topics were policy and best practices as one 15:24:27 group. And the second group or topic was 15:24:34 community engagement. >> JAMILA: So we have a choice with 15:24:42 the nine of us on the call to decide -- everyone else who didn't make it today 15:24:46 -- do we want to have two subcommittees or do we want to choose one and anyone 15:24:51 on the call can join that one and maybe we can bring it up again -- hopefully 15:24:55 we can bring it up again next month to see if there's any other folks that 15:24:58 didn't make it today that want to join the one or two subcommittees. 15:25:01 I don't know, how do we want to do this? 15:25:07 Do we want to say more than two or three people want to do two -- or if 15:25:13 we can get more than three people on a committee, we'll do two -- OK, yes, go 15:25:16 ahead, Mara. >> MARA: I was going to ask if there 15:25:20 was kind of like a thought around what we'd be doing. 15:25:24 I'm kind of interested in the community engagement one, but is that like about 15:25:29 how we as a committee can engage with the community? 15:25:37 Or what would we be talking about in these subcommittees? 15:25:41 >> NIKI: We didn't really get more specific in that in the survey. 15:25:46 If you recall taking it, it was areas folks were interested in digging in 15:25:50 deeper and thought the quarterly meeting and full-body meetings weren't 15:25:54 going to get to address adequately. As long as it's within the purview, it 15:25:58 could be launching off of that Portland Fair Housing Plan. 15:26:05 It could be more expansive than that, as long as it is within pretty broad 15:26:05 boundaries of addressing Fair Housing and the mission. 15:26:18 >> MARA: I'd love to put my name out there that one being subcommittee for 15:26:21 sure. I have been out and about doing a lot 15:26:27 of meet-ups in the community because of my role in the Housing Bond Oversight 15:26:29 Committee. So I could probably incorporate some 15:26:35 of that work I'm already doing. But I think it is really important 15:26:41 that piece of it I guess that we're both getting feedback from the 15:26:45 community about what they want to see and we communicate work we're 15:26:49 advocating for once we have something we want to push forward to have a 15:26:54 network of people maybe that already in touch with us and know what we're 15:26:59 doing might be kind of cool. So I like the idea of that 15:27:01 subcommittee, if anybody else wants to try that out. 15:27:08 If not, I'd be OK with that too and it be something we try to do as part of 15:27:12 our bigger meetings. >> JAMILA: Is there anyone else who 15:27:15 would be interested in being in the community outreach -- or community 15:27:28 engagement committee? >> BARBARA: Hi, this is Barbara. 15:27:32 I'm interested in the community engagement subcommittee. 15:27:32 >> JAMILA: Awesome. >> MARA: Awesome. 15:27:55 >> JAMILA: So when -- Allan. >> ALLAN: Similarly -- 15:28:04 [Inaudible] -- interested in policies [Inaudible] those are two pretty 15:28:08 distinct areas that we would benefit from both of them. 15:28:12 >> JAMILA: I think Allan said those two areas are distinct enough that we 15:28:14 would benefit from both of those areas. 15:28:19 I'm assuming the idea of having two committees, as long as both to sign up 15:28:22 for, it's OK. Right. 15:28:24 I agree. >> ALLAN: Yeah. 15:28:27 Sorry if -- >> JAMILA: It's your phone that's not 15:28:27 clear. You are very clear. 15:28:35 I personally would like to be on the policy committee. 15:28:45 So there's one right there. If we can find someone else -- 15:28:50 don't everybody speak at once. >> MARA: Got to give it time. 15:28:51 I was nervous. [Laughter] 15:28:57 >> MARA: Got to get on the dance floor and be the first one to like -- it's 15:28:58 fun over here. [Laughter] 15:29:02 >> MARA: I agree, Allan, I think they are different, but also they cross 15:29:07 over enough too that it might be nice to have also some work between -- or 15:29:13 the subcommittees might be able to do work together because of those two 15:29:20 things intersecting like community engagement, pushing policy forward -- 15:29:23 I think we did a good job picking subcommittees. 15:29:25 I hope someone else will sign up for the policy one because those do seem 15:29:38 important. >> BECKY: I would expect there would 15:29:49 be interest for both subcommittees from people who aren't here. 15:29:53 >> BARBARA: Policy and best practices -- I'm available for that one as well. 15:29:53 >> JAMILA: Awesome. 15:30:05 I guess we definitely have the committee for the community 15:30:07 engagement. Barbara came in with -- we're going to 15:30:14 do one on policy. I'll tell you I'm most interested in 15:30:18 having some sort of discussion around what it looks like -- we talked about 15:30:22 this -- what accountability looks like for folks and what does -- I don't 15:30:27 know, you said the word. I can never think of it. 15:30:29 Fines. Fining people. 15:30:34 Phone calls about things happening. I love to explore what the 15:30:39 possibilities are and who's doing something different than we are in 15:30:43 Portland. >> NIKI: I think you're looking at 15:30:49 enforcement was maybe the word we talked -- 15:30:53 >> JAMILA: That word is not in my vocabulary because I don't like to 15:30:57 enforce anything unless my children >> NIKI: A theme has come up at 15:31:02 several points but could be nicely nestled under policies and best 15:31:05 practiceses, that's a way we could get at it, but also not have a 15:31:08 subcommittee that's solely focused on that, right, and has a bit of a 15:31:15 broader view. >> JAMILA: So then we have a 15:31:18 committee for sure. And then, Barbara, I'd like to suggest 15:31:22 that we don't tax Barbara with an extra committee if we don't need to, unless 15:31:27 you want to, and then we just bring this conversation up again at the next 15:31:31 meeting or maybe an e-mail to let folks know who didn't -- maybe somebody 15:31:38 wants to join via e-mail. >> MARA: I think also put like a 15:31:45 little bit of a -- a short summary of what they might do or be in the e-mail 15:31:52 so people can maybe be -- elevator pitch of what we're going to be doing 15:31:55 in that group. >> JAMILA: That sounds good. 15:32:00 >> NIKI: I can definitely send out an e-mail, if we want a better gauge of 15:32:05 interest, which would also allow us to kind of determine size of each 15:32:10 subcommittee, right, because also need to meet quorum and things like that. 15:32:15 I'm not sure if anybody wants to talk about, you know, the meeting frequency 15:32:19 or what that would look like or if subcommittees should -- if we're going 15:32:23 to run two, do they run on the same month, do they run on opposite 15:32:28 months? Just so I can get a clear idea as well 15:32:32 because I want to be supportive, but also for housing bureau staff, making 15:32:35 sure we coordinate a briefing for those meetings to be successful. 15:32:40 So I want a clear ask. >> JAMILA: OK. 15:32:46 Do we want to get -- yes, time and commitment would be helpful in 15:32:49 scheduling too. So we have had a couple of people 15:32:52 join. I know Holly just joined. 15:32:54 Holly Stephens. Someone else just joined. 15:33:05 Do we want to pose the question for committee -- we all voted for 15:33:11 committees. And the two that were tied was the 15:33:15 community engagement committee and also the policy and best practice 15:33:18 committee. So we were thinking we could have two 15:33:25 committees as long as we got someone to sign up for the policy and best 15:33:30 practice because we have two folks that agreed to be on the committee -- 15:33:35 engagement committee. So anyone who just joined, is anyone 15:33:45 interested on being on any of those committees? 15:33:48 >> HOLLY: What would the policy committee -- what would that entail? 15:33:50 >> JAMILA: I want to talk about enforcement. 15:33:54 Niki said we should talk about everything from the -- just look into 15:34:02 what's happening in other places, what are policies, how are we carrying out 15:34:05 policies, getting well-versed in policy shifts, maybe. 15:34:07 Niki -- >> NIKI: That was actually suggested 15:34:12 by Taylor as well, who is not present in the meeting. 15:34:17 Taylor was really interested in if this body is going to be making policy 15:34:23 recommendations and evaluating policy, that there's maybe a group who can dig 15:34:28 a little bit further and, you know, have a broader context to evaluate 15:34:34 those policy recommendations as we move throughout the plan or identify ideas 15:34:37 and practices places that might apply well to Portland. 15:34:42 It was kind of a consideration that maybe these quarterly meetings for the 15:34:46 full body, some background work would be good as we move throughout that 15:34:48 process and that could be done for a subcommittee and include items like 15:34:56 enforcement. >> HOLLY: What would the timeline be 15:35:01 on getting together and asking because I have a project launching, we're 15:35:04 piloting a project in June. So time commitwise, just trying to 15:35:09 figure out what that might look like. >> JAMILA: I was thinking two or 15:35:14 three times a week from 3:00 to 5:00. I'm kidding. 15:35:20 [Laughter] >> HOLLY: I'm glad I'm not on camera. 15:35:20 [Laughter] 15:35:29 >> JAMILA: For me, I would be interested in everyone else who signed 15:35:32 up for committee, this is a good time to jump in. 15:35:38 Once a month in between our meetings, I feel like maybe even once or twice -- 15:35:42 we meet every three months, right? So I'd be interested in, like, once a 15:35:49 month. Between our committee meetings. 15:35:51 >> HOLLY: I'll do once a month on the policy stuff with you. 15:36:00 >> JAMILA: Yeah, Holly. OK. 15:36:17 >> NIKI: Flesh out the details too and we'll have touch bases on it again in 15:36:21 order to formally vote -- take that vote and formally create the 15:36:26 subcommittees. So I wanted to let you all know that 15:36:31 and that will be to schedule how many seats and all of that a little 15:36:35 hammered out for us to do that. >> JAMILA: Does that mean the 15:36:38 committees won't even start until three months from this meeting? 15:36:42 >> NIKI: Well, given that we have some folks that I think we would know and 15:36:46 unless we have a good idea of size, I think it would be hard to do that. 15:36:53 I think we could probably get it set up to be, if you're doing every month, we 15:36:59 could probably get them rolling that same month after the vote. 15:37:01 Get all those details worked out. So that would be the July meeting. 15:37:12 But, yes. >> JAMILA: Does anyone have any 15:37:17 questions, comments, concerns about subcommittees? 15:37:21 >> MARA: I'm thinking too it might be -- it's good to have general 15:37:26 structure, but the subcommittees may kind of ebb and flow with maybe things 15:37:31 that we're working on too. If subcommittees decide to meet more 15:37:36 one month, is that going to be possible or how rigid are the things we're 15:37:38 talking about, are they just the general outline for these 15:37:45 subcommittees? >> NIKI: We will need to have 15:37:48 somewhat predictable standard schedule in terms of additional ad hoc meetings 15:37:52 it would be, you know, bureau staff capacity and making sure that we can 15:37:59 properly, you know, give public notice of those meetings, you know, so that 15:38:03 the board can join if they choose or at the least are aware that the meeting 15:38:09 is happening. And then of course up to the 15:38:11 subcommittee members' individual capacities. 15:38:16 I would say there is room for change, but just like FHAC, we would want 15:38:17 something that's standard and predictable. 15:38:18 Don't want to run into quorum issues with subcommittees either. 15:38:37 >> This is -- 15:38:43 [Inaudible] >> JAMILA: Sorry. 15:38:50 We were just joined by Max -- >> MARA: A little bionic. 15:38:55 It sounded like someone is interested in joining one of the subcommittees. 15:39:03 >> NIKI: I believe Marisa on the other phone line here. 15:39:06 >> MARISA: Can you hear me now? >> Yeah. 15:39:11 >> MARISA: I'm sorry. I was just expressing interest in the 15:39:13 best practices subcommittee. Apologies that I couldn't respond 15:39:13 sooner. I was driving. 15:39:27 >> JAMILA: Awesome. >> MARA: I can imagine Marisa 15:39:32 desperately trying to pull over to find a place so they can sign up for the 15:39:36 policy subcommittee. [Laughter] 15:39:38 >> MARA: I'm imagining that in my mind. 15:39:45 >> NIKI: I would like to ask a clarifying question. 15:39:51 The ask -- so two subcommittees. I heard once a month for policy and 15:39:54 best practices. Are we also thinking once a month for 15:40:01 the community engagement subcommittee? Or once every other month was another 15:40:03 option from the survey. They don't all have to match. 15:40:08 But it would be nice for my personal sanity, but you guys can direct how 15:40:18 you so choose. >> MARA: I was leaning more to one in 15:40:22 between every other meeting, so maybe one in the two months is kind of more 15:40:27 where I was leaning. You know, I know things have to be 15:40:30 operationalized. My brain is very much not that person. 15:40:34 So I apologize. 15:40:36 I can't really picture in terms of community engagement too much more 15:40:41 right now that we'd want to meet and talk about. 15:40:44 It mostly probably would be brainstorming about what we could 15:40:49 bring back to this committee, I imagine. 15:40:50 >> NIKI: Are you thinking quarterly -- 15:40:52 >> MARA: Maybe. Is that what that sounds like? 15:40:54 Yeah. Obviously Barbara or anyone else who 15:40:59 joins can speak up, but I'm just thinking at this point I -- 15:41:04 for me at least, I can see it just meeting once in between the two -- or, 15:41:06 you know, the three-month mark that we're waiting for this meeting. 15:41:09 I guess similar to what the executive committee is doing. 15:41:12 Maybe they are meeting more. But just take an opportunity to check 15:41:13 in in between meetings and then bring that information back to the next one. 15:41:16 But that's just my thought on it. 15:41:32 >> BARBARA: This is Barbara. I'm open. 15:41:38 I was actually going to suggest once a month commitment to match the other 15:41:41 subcommittee. But that's -- because at this point 15:41:45 I'm a little unclear as to what the committee is. 15:41:49 I did read something -- now I can't find it. 15:41:53 That committee was called something else. 15:41:59 So I just -- for us working on that subcommittee, it might be important 15:42:04 to, first of all, establish what exactly we're going to be doing and 15:42:07 what kind of information we're going to be collecting or disseminating. 15:42:20 That's my input. 15:42:21 >> Great. Thank you. 15:42:34 >> JAMILA: Is there anyone else -- we were just joined by MISHa Jones. 15:42:38 >> NIKI: MISHa works with the Housing Bureau. 15:42:43 >> JAMILA: MISHa does not want to be on a committee. 15:42:43 Is there anything further on the committee discussion? 15:42:57 All right. >> NIKI: OK. 15:43:03 So I will collect that together. I will talk to my folks here at the 15:43:07 Bureau and make sure we have staff capacity to support the frequency of 15:43:11 meetings and two additional subcommittees. 15:43:16 I will send out an e-mail asking any committee members who are not present 15:43:21 today if they would like to join and then I'll bring that information back 15:43:25 to the executive committee, which is Jay and Marisa, so that they can see 15:43:30 the results of how many seats, how much interest there is and make sure that 15:43:34 we have that worked out and then I think we'll be able to take the formal 15:43:36 vote and schedule from there. OK. 15:43:46 >> JAMILA: If I'm not mistaken, that was the last agenda item. 15:43:51 >> NIKI: Yes, it was a very light agenda today as we wait for that 15:43:56 census bureau data or analysis for you guys. 15:44:02 It is 3:43. So, because we jumped onto public 15:44:06 comment a little bit earlier than officially scheduled, I would like to 15:44:12 just take a second and ask if there is anyone joining us from the public that 15:44:18 would like to provide public comment. You can raise your hand. 15:44:21 You can put your name in the chat or you can feel free to unmute. 15:44:51 Jay, do you have any final words to wrap up our meeting? 15:44:53 >> JAMILA: I'd like to remind you all that shoot for the moon and even if 15:45:00 you miss, you'll land amongst the stars. 15:45:06 With that, I will bring this meek to a close, unless, Marisa, you have 15:45:12 something to say. Inspirational quote someone wants to 15:45:18 leave us with? Go ahead, I'm sorry. 15:45:21 >> MARISA: I'm good. Thank you so much. 15:45:30 Thank you, Niki and Jay, for all of your work in leading this meeting 15:45:33 today. >> MARA: I was going to chime in, 15:45:37 it's not exactly Fair Housing. But I have been going to 15:45:40 groundbreaking for new affordable housing going up and also renovations 15:45:46 and other things. So it's been nice for that let's shoot 15:45:49 for the moon thing is real right now I think in that work. 15:45:53 It was nice to kind of see the progress being done and that I hope we can 15:45:58 continue to, you know, push forward the concept of Fair Housing as we develop 15:46:01 more and more of it, right? But it was nice to see people in 15:46:04 wheelchairs there at some of the groundbreaking events. 15:46:06 They had boards set up over the gravel. 15:46:09 It was nice to see some of that thoughtfulness. 15:46:15 Also some of the buildings have a beautiful history behind them, like 15:46:28 there's the Nueva Esperanza aiming towards helping the generations of 15:46:32 migrant farm workers brought from Texas in the '70s, certainly not Fair 15:46:35 Housing standard conditions. So pieces of that foundation are going 15:46:40 to be ground up and put into the foundation of that new building as a 15:46:43 way to never forget kind of where people come from and the history of 15:46:47 really the substandard living conditions that migrant workers were 15:46:52 and do live in. So, anyway, that was kind of good 15:46:54 news. It was nice. 15:46:57 They had a mariachi band and Taco Chuck. 15:47:01 We had a good time celebrating good news as it relates to housing. 15:47:07 Just wanted to put that out there. >> JAMILA: Are you at Home Forward? 15:47:12 >> MARA: I work at Independent Living Resources. 15:47:16 We're kind of outside self-advocates, peer driven. 15:47:20 >> JAMILA: Thank you. >> NIKI: Thank you for sharing that, 15:47:26 Mara. Well, thank you, everyone. 15:47:32 I know it was a short meeting. I hope everybody is staying safe with 15:47:34 the crazy weather happening right now. 15:47:40 It looks like it stopped sleeting at least downtown. 15:47:45 Hopefully there's no snow tomorrow that I have been hearing mumblings about. 15:47:47 Check your inboxes. I will have a lot of information about 15:47:47 everything we discussed coming to you today.