15:05:17 .3
15:05:28 .
>> Okay.
15:05:31
Welcome everybody.
Thanks for being here this afternoon.
15:05:34 As I kind of mentioned from e-mails that I've gotten today
15:05:38 , notices from folks, we're going to be a pretty small
15:05:41 group.
And
15:05:44 we're mostly just going to do a quick check-in
15:05:48 and some Bureau updates.
To
15:05:51 kick things off, my name is
15:05:54 Jessica Conner.
I am the staff
15:05:59 to Portland Housing Advisory Committee and build
15:06:02 back.
We've got somebody else which is going to join
15:06:05 us.
Great.
Heather
15:06:08 .
Perfect.
Heather, Jill
15:06:12 , Anna, appreciate you very much.
So
15:06:15 it is an -- I appreciate everyone tak
15:06:18 ing the time to review the letter
15:06:22 .
Go over it.
I know it is tricky
15:06:25 .
An attempt to prioritize anything
15:06:45 .
We're just continuing.
At least for right now on the path
15:06:48 that we are.
That might change in the future
15:07:24 .
Lloyd has retired from the housing center.
15:07:27 And with that he's rolling off of PHAC.
Definitely
15:07:31 some some sincere congratulations to her.
I also
15:07:35 heard that
15:07:38 Kamici has moved some positions and is
15:07:41 doing some prioritizing.
And so they will
15:07:44 not be joining us.
Unfortunately
15:07:48 .
And, yeah, we've got a couple people that are just
15:07:52 out either on vacation or out sick today.
So that is why we're
15:07:55 a little bit of a small group.
And when it comes to staff.
15:07:58 If it hasn't made its way around to you yet
15:08:02 , Matthew Shabol
15:08:05 t is actually leaving the house Bureau.
He got
15:08:09 a position with the governor's office.
He'll be a housing
15:08:13 policy advisor there.
This will be his last week
15:08:21 .
So he won't be able to join us unfortunately also
15:08:24 this afternoon.
He's got four meetings scheduled at the same time.
15:08:27 So we definitely, it will be -- it is quite
15:08:30 a loss for
15:08:34 .
But quite the boon
15:08:37 for the governor and for the state
15:08:40 .
So we'll definitely miss him and will
15:08:43 wish him all the best
15:08:47 .
Anything else before I do a quick check-in about the
15:08:50 letter?
15:08:57 Great.
Knew that we were just going to be super efficient this afternoon
15:09:02 .
So the letter, I did get one
15:09:05 , only one change
15:09:09 .
Relatively small.
I think since
15:09:12 sending out the one last week,
15:09:15 and that was from Kymberly
15:09:19 .
And she was requesting that the --
15:09:22 there is the section that is promoting resiliency
15:09:25 .
And the bullet is "home repair for low
15:09:29 income
15:09:33 homeowners."
Her request was we
15:09:36 ad add and
15:09:39 qualified seniors.
That at her request.
And I look
15:09:42 to Heather, and
15:09:45 others to see if there is support there or anyone that would
15:09:48 like to suggest something different.
Aside from that, those are the
15:09:52 only notes that I got.
Great, thanks Heather
15:09:54 .
I see you in the chat.
Sounds great.
15:09:57 And if there is anything else related to the leather or
15:10:00 letter or any
15:10:03 other back/PHAC
15:10:06 related business anybody would like to bring up.
I'll just
15:10:09 open the floor
15:10:13 .
>> I've been doing this long enough that I should not find it
15:10:16 challenging.
But I find it hard to
15:10:19 advocate for a budget I haven't seen
15:10:23 and sign a letter of support asking people
15:10:26 to vote for something I don't know what we're asking for
15:10:29 .
And I guess the last time, you know,
15:10:32 things that just changed really quickly.
We just had a
15:10:36 brand new housing commissioner.
You hadn't yet met
15:10:39 with her.
Did we get any
15:10:42 guidance from her?
Do we have any sense of
15:10:46 whether what she's going to advocate for?
15:10:50
Or where P
15:10:53 HB is sitting in this strange sit/
15:10:56 county, kind of, showdown?
It is hard
15:10:59 to know what position to take and hard to advocate
15:11:02 for what, when we haven't seen anything.
>> Yes
15:11:08 .
Yeah, so again, I can appreciate that.
15:11:12 And it being a no cut,
15:11:15 no add year is kind of, you know,
15:11:22 -- it is just kind of asking for you know
15:11:25 current service level budgets.
So doing the things that
15:11:28 we've been doing all year
15:11:33 .
And I can't speak to the
15:11:37 city/county situation.
But I do know that, you
15:11:40 know, Molly has now had, you know, and the
15:11:43 executive level team, right, more introductions with the
15:11:46 commissioner's office and staff there
15:11:52 .
But I don't anticipate at this point that
15:11:55 we have clear direction from
15:12:00 Commissioner Rubio on the budget part itself.
And part of that
15:12:03 is because we are PHB,
15:12:06 is now in this
15:12:09 new cluster of bureaus
15:12:12 .
And the Mayor has, you know, the Mayor
15:12:15 pulled all the bureaus back, clustered them
15:12:19 into groups
15:12:22 .
And this is terrible that this is now being recorded, that
15:12:25 I'm failing to remember what the name of the Housing Bureau's
15:12:29 cluster is.
15:12:32 Community and economic --
15:12:35 we were in there with prosper Portland,
15:12:38 development services,
15:12:41 plains sustainability and PHB.
So I know
15:12:45 who we're in the pot with.
And I know
15:12:48 that the budget -- the potential
15:12:51 to ask for
15:12:55 new money potentially coming in March,
15:12:59 everyone I'm hearing is caveating this pretty
15:13:02 seriously.
Potentially getting us some new guidance in
15:13:05 March.
And if it is, then it will be
15:13:08 the Commissioner will need to
15:13:12 put forth a package
15:13:15 or packages that are in coordination and
15:13:18 alignment with each of those four agencies
15:13:26 .
So I know that's probably still a little vague because none
15:13:29 of us have had to really coordinate our budget
15:13:33 asks before.
You know, but they are
15:13:36 really attempting to get, you know, our bureaus aligned
15:13:39 .
So my hope is that we may
15:13:42 have some information to bring to PHAC
15:13:46 at the next
15:13:56 .
-- community and economic development, thank you very much.
15:13:59 Person put that in the chat.
So yes
15:14:02 , I'm hopeful that we will have some information to be able to
15:14:05 share in March.
I don't know the timing of it
15:14:11 .
But when and what we can, we will definitely
15:14:16 bring that, will be important for Molly to want
15:14:19 to bring that to this group as well
15:14:22 .
>> But did PHB actually submit something?
15:14:25 Like, are we -- we're -- is that the
15:14:28 letter in support of PHB's
15:14:31 requested budget.
>> Yeah, we will be submitting
15:14:35 a requested budget
15:14:38 .
I'm going to put you on the spot for a minute
15:14:43 angel if you don't mind, as your finance and account
15:14:47 ing manager.
Perhaps you can share maybe in a different
15:14:50 way or a better way what it is the Bureau is going to be submitting
15:14:53 as part of our request budget.
15:14:58 >> Hello everyone.
I'm ankle
15:15:05 angel landro
15:15:10 n, for the record
15:15:13 .
At this point what we're doing is balancing the
15:15:16 current service --.
So we're
15:15:20 not inserting any decision packages
15:15:23 or additional funding for particular purposes.
But we
15:15:26 have been working on
15:15:29 the sustainment
15:15:33 -- same expenditures that we have over time with
15:15:36 taking into consideration the inflation rates for the
15:15:39 next fiscal year
15:15:43 .
There is another memo from the Mayor
15:15:46 's office that we are waiting for more
15:15:52 guidance into packages in the coming
15:15:55 , I don't know, maybe next month, where we
15:15:58 are going to get more insight about how can
15:16:01 we ask for additional funding to request
15:16:04 for particular needs
15:16:08 .
Our central budget in all this I
15:16:11 think as well
15:16:15 .
It can add more information than I have.
15:16:18 But what we are doing at this point is we need to
15:16:21 resubmit a budget on the 26th and it is based on the
15:16:24 current service level with our current revenue
15:16:27 and current expenditure
15:16:33 .
Yung, do you want to add something?
>> No.
15:16:36 That's basically it.
I mean, yeah, when it comes
15:16:41 to Bureau's asking for additional general fund
15:16:45 money, we are working with the Mayor's office to
15:16:48 come up with guidance on that.
And
15:16:52 like angel
15:16:55 said, that will be coming out in the next couple
15:16:58 months.
But that is only concerned with additional general fund money
15:17:02 .
It is not concerned with any
15:17:05 of the bureaus, any other revenues or
15:17:08 expenditures.
So...
>> So everything
15:17:11 else is staying the same from last year
15:17:15 ?
15:17:18
>> That is for Angel for the bureau to answer
15:17:23 .
>> Yes, mainly yes.
I think that only
15:17:26 you addition that we are working at this point
15:17:30 is the money that we are going to
15:17:34 receive.
I don't know the
15:17:37 amount.
Amount the bureau going to receive for five
15:17:40 years.
I believe for fiscal year
15:17:44 '24 we are adding like
15:17:48 12 million
15:17:51 .
Trying the figure out how much money we're going to
15:17:54 receive for that purpose.
That is the
15:17:58 only thing that will be
15:18:01 different than the budget at this time.
15:18:10 >> So like, Jessie
15:18:13 , the anti-displacement program we are run
15:18:17 running in's Portland.
So we're still spending like 2-
15:18:21 $3 million on that program?
15:18:24 Last year we saw packages that described things
15:18:28 .
And they went through last year, they were -- I
15:18:31 thought they were one-year things.
But that means we're just going to
15:18:34 continue doing it this year too?
15:18:38
>> Well in this budget, fiscal year
15:18:41 '23, we have
15:18:45 $3.5 million that are coming from fiscal year
15:18:50 '22 or land bank
15:18:54 ing acquisition.
That is included in this budget.
I don't know if that
15:18:58 's what you are making reference to.
>> I don't think so
15:19:01 .
I mean that is helpful.
That's good to know
15:19:07 .
>> My understanding of the funds dedicate
15:19:10 ed to east Portland
15:19:14 .
>> 82nd avenue is the one I meant.
>> Oh,
15:19:18 82nd avenue.
>> I misspoke.
>> No problem
15:19:21 .
So the American rustic
15:19:24 land local relief funds for
15:19:27 82nd avenue, there was
15:19:31 a coordinated -- three coordinated
15:19:34 , yet separate, requests
15:19:37 from prosper Portland, the Housing Bureau
15:19:41 and bureau of transportation.
All
15:19:45 around the 82nd Avenue cord
15:19:48 corridorrer
15:19:52 corridor.
Those went to council.
The decision around those
15:19:55 three packages was to repackage them as one
15:20:02 .
And shrink the fund
15:20:05 ing.
And then the three agencies were direct
15:20:10 ed to work together
15:20:13 to use those funds
15:20:17 in some sort of combination to address those
15:20:21 same needs.
So we asked for
15:20:24 funds.
We did get a yes.
But we got a little bit
15:20:27 less, and it required us to sort of reorganize the
15:20:31 way we were looking at it.
I am actually currently
15:20:36 the lead, at least on the PHB side
15:20:39 , for those funds.
And for that program.
15:20:44 We took that money,
15:20:50 $1.8 million, approximately
15:20:54 $1.8 million.
And a portion of that, about
15:21:01 $640,000 went to Prosper Portland for small business stabilization
15:21:04 program.
And the remainder is being coordinated.
15:21:07 It is still at H happy
15:21:10 PHB.
But we're work
15:21:13 ing closely with PBOT
15:21:16 and prosper.
And we're going to do a pilot
15:21:20 program around stabilization and workforce training.
>> That was one-
15:21:23 time money.
So that is not being reneweds
15:21:26 in the budget?
>> Correct.
All of the money is one time.
15:21:33 >> Okay.
And the three and a half million, the
15:21:36 land acquisition money that was in last year's budget
15:21:40 , I don't think that's been allocated it or has it been
15:21:43 ?
15:21:50
>> It has not been allocated.
But it is not
15:21:53 general fund money.
So it is in
15:21:57 our fund.
So basically it is there.
15:22:00 So if we need to carry forward to the next
15:22:03 fiscal year
15:22:07 .
>> So it will just roll forward.
We won't get
15:22:12 another three and a half million.
>> Well if you are -- if we are
15:22:15 not going to spend it, we are going
15:22:18 to add it.
If and
15:22:21 And we're going to spend it
15:22:26 .
What I'm starting to say is it is not
15:22:29 general fund.
That means if we do not spend it
15:22:32 , we are not going lose it.
So we have it.
It is in our
15:22:36 -- it is one of our funds.
So to be a specifically
15:22:40 is in the housing investment fund
15:22:43 .
15:22:48 >> Okay.
>> Does
15:22:51 that make sense?
So when we ask for general
15:22:54 fund requests, those
15:22:58 are, kind of, use it or lose it.
And then
15:23:01 when we're talking about the funds
15:23:05 that Angel is talking about, talk tacts
15:23:08 Housing Investment Fund.
It is okay that we just plop it
15:23:11 into that savings account or whatever and spend it when we need
15:23:14 it.
>> In other words --
>> But it is not -- but I
15:23:17 see that point you are saying
15:23:21 .
That it is the same base
15:23:25 level that I'm going to also look to Angel to
15:23:28 correct me if I get this wrong.
The
15:23:32 same service level does not include the extra
15:23:35 money stuff that we asked for from last year
15:23:38 .
We asked for 2 million for XYZ
15:23:41 program, our current service
15:23:44 level budget does not include
15:23:48 the -- getting the $2 million again
15:23:51 for the XYZ program.
>> That is correct.
15:24:05 >> Okay.
I don't have any
15:24:09 other questions.
Thank you.
>> Questions from any of the
15:24:12 other members?
15:24:27 Okay.
The next for the
15:24:30 letter.
So I will --
15:24:33 at this point I only need to take the watermark off
15:24:37 .
But finalize the letter.
I will send it over to
15:24:40 our finance county team for their
15:24:43 inclusion in our submitted
15:24:46 request budget.
>> And I would like to clarify
15:24:51 about the I insect pond
15:24:54 ing I was mentioning earlier before.
Basically
15:24:57 this is a new ponding that it is not being completed
15:25:01 .
The interagency agreement.
So
15:25:04 basically we are working with some estimates.
And because that is
15:25:07 coming from another bureau.
That means that we need
15:25:11 to balance the revenue and expenditures with
15:25:14 that bureau.
So we are getting those details to
15:25:17 make sure how much we are going to add in fiscal
15:25:21 year '24 budget.
Our initial estimate
15:25:25 is approximately $12 million.
But we need to make
15:25:28 sure that another bureau has the same numbers, because we need
15:25:32 to balance.
15:25:36 >> Thank you for that clarification, Angel.
15:25:44 Well, anything for the good of the order?
15:25:52 Comments, questions about anything related to the budget?
15:25:58 Or anything related to the bureau
15:26:01 ?
15:26:07 All right.
Well, lots of gratitude to
15:26:10 all of you for taking the time this
15:26:13 afternoon, and the time you took with the letter
15:26:16 .
I appreciate that.
15:26:20 We will be in touch
15:26:24 .
When we get back
15:26:27 guidance.
And I look forward to see
15:26:30 ing you all in March for our March
15:26:34 March 7th meeting.
15:26:37 >> Thank you.