09:35:04 >> Welcome,
09:35:06 everybody, to the July bond
09:35:09 other sight committee meeting.
We are
09:35:11 excited to have 28 folks on
09:35:13 the call, including three of
09:35:16 our bond oversights committee
09:35:18
members this morning.
09:35:20 We're going to go over quickly some of
09:35:22 the traditional, or now what are
09:35:24 becoming traditional zoom
meeting
09:35:27 rules, as they were, for
09:35:29 participation.
There will be time at the end of
09:35:32 the meeting for public
09:35:34 comment and so, if you are
09:35:36 interested
09:35:38 in
09:35:40
comment, Stacey,
09:35:43 reaching out through the chat
09:35:45 for public testimony?
>> That should work,
09:35:47 yes.
We have time for public
09:35:49 testimony set aside at the end of the
09:35:52 meeting, and they can sign up in the
chat
09:35:54 if they would like to give testimony.
>>
09:35:57 Wonderful.
And so, for most of the
09:35:59 meeting, if you are not part of the
09:36:02 presentation panel or the oversight
09:36:04
committee, if you would be so kind as
09:36:06 to hold your comments either to the
09:36:08 chat or to
09:36:10 the -- and for
the
09:36:12 public testimony, as Stacey said, you
09:36:14 can let us know in the chat
09:36:16 if you would like to do
that.
09:36:19 And, with
09:36:21 that, I will go over quickly the on line
09:36:24 meeting and protocol tips.
So first of
09:36:26 all, if we can be patient and
09:36:29 respectful of each other, please make sure that
09:36:31 your
speakers and microphone
09:36:33 are working.
09:36:36 Anneliese, Susan,
09:36:38 Allan, as you are
09:36:40 the primary questioners today.
It
09:36:42 looks like Allan is
09:36:45 off mute.
>> Good morning.
>> I will
09:36:47 say good
09:36:50 morning, Susan.
>>
09:36:52 There's introduce yourself before
09:36:54 speaking.
I should have done that
09:36:56 myself.
I'm Shannon
09:36:58 Callahan of the Portland Housing
09:37:00 Bureau.
The chat will be open at the end
09:37:03 of the meeting.
So, with
09:37:05 that, I think we can go right into
09:37:07 the agenda this
09:37:10 morning.
And it is just nice to
09:37:12 be here and see faces, even
09:37:15 if they are in a little
09:37:17 box.
Also, for committee
09:37:20 members
09:37:23 , do you want to
09:37:25 raise your hand if you want to
09:37:27 interject, or are you
fine, there is only three of you
09:37:29 this morning, if you want to
09:37:32 unmute.
Does that work for you just to
09:37:34 unmute?
>> Perfect.
I'm
09:37:36 seeing one thumbs up, a real thumbs
09:37:39 up, not a Zoom
09:37:41 thumbs up.
With that, we will
09:37:43 turn it over to Jill
09:37:47 Chen.
>> Good morning and thank
09:37:49 you.
I'm Jill Chen
09:37:51 of the Portland Housing
09:37:54 Bureau.
I will go quickly
09:37:56 through the project
09:37:58 dark board and update.
Next
09:38:01 slide, please.
There
09:38:03 we go.
And, just
09:38:05 wanted to let everyone know, so
09:38:07 far everything is looking really
09:38:10 well, progressing really
well.
Out
09:38:12 of the 10 projects that
09:38:14 are in
09:38:17 predevelopment or we have
09:38:19 only two that are still
09:38:21 waiting for
predevelopment
09:38:23 loans.
That's the Joyce and
09:38:25 the
09:38:27 Prescott.
Joyce have already
09:38:29 gotten approval, it is in
09:38:32 documentation, and Prescott
09:38:34 has applied for the
09:38:37
predevelopment loan.
We're also
09:38:39 very excited because we will have
09:38:42 projects going to close by
09:38:44 the end of this year.
As a matter of fact, in
09:38:46 addition to our two projects that's
09:38:49 not part of the
09:38:51 bonds, we will have
between five and seven
09:38:53 bond projects
09:38:55 closing between November and
09:38:57 sort of the 1st
09:38:59 quarter, 2021.
One of the first
09:39:01 projects that we'll be
09:39:04 closing is the project
09:39:06 called
09:39:09 115th at Division.
This is
09:39:11 going to be presented to you today and they are
09:39:14 targeted close November 2020.
09:39:25 They will have units in
09:39:28 production this year very much exciting.
Another
09:39:30 is
09:39:32 a 40-limit
09:39:34 expansion, the highest in the
09:39:36 area of laurel hurst and
09:39:40 Kanton, in the
neighborhood.
That is
09:39:43 exciting.
You will see a couple of new
09:39:45 projects and we're very pleased.
09:39:47 Without further adieu, I will
09:39:49 send that to, I think Mike
09:39:51 Johnson, coming up next to
09:39:53 talk about the
bond issuance.
09:40:05 >> Good morning, everyone.
Meek
09:40:08 Johnson, finance and county manager
09:40:10 for the Bureau.
First slide
09:40:12 here, as you
09:40:14 may or may
09:40:17 not have
09:40:19 heard
09:40:26 the City did issue the
09:40:29 bonds.
$164 million, got a very
09:40:31 good deal on be the
09:40:33 borrowing cost, less than 2%.
09:40:35 Substantially less than what the
09:40:38 estimates management provided us,
09:40:41 so that was good thing.
The sale of
09:40:43 the bonds actually occurred on
09:40:45 June 3rd and the money has been
09:40:47 in the bank since June
11.
09:40:49 It will be there earning interest
09:40:52 until we start drawing
09:40:54 funds for projects.
So that
09:40:56 means that, to date, we
09:40:59 have issued three different
09:41:01 issues sox
09:41:03 that's
09:41:06 2017-a, 2019-b, and
09:41:09
this would be the 2020,
09:41:11 the 2020-b
09:41:14 issuance.
So 217 million to
09:41:16 date.
So what that means is
09:41:19 there will be
09:41:21 another bond about issued,
09:41:23 at least one more, as we continue
09:41:25 on
the process.
09:41:27 Any questions on that
09:41:29 bond sale?
09:41:34 Okay.
So we will move
09:41:38 along to the expenditure report.
09:41:40 So that's primarily in the
09:41:42 memo that we sent you, that we do
09:41:45 have the very
09:41:47 nice graph that
09:41:50 Tanya
does.
Again, not much
09:41:52 in the way of
09:41:55 changes because we haven't really started
09:41:57 construction on anything
yet.
We have
09:42:00 done a number of
09:42:02 predevelopment loans.
We
09:42:05 do those predevelopment
09:42:07 loans out of another funding source because
09:42:09 there is always the chance
09:42:11
your pro sect might not
09:42:13 move forward in the predevelopment stage.
We
09:42:15 do not anticipate that, but out
09:42:18 of an abundance of
09:42:20 caution, we made it out of another
09:42:22 source so
those aren't reflected in this
09:42:25 report.
We've had, you know, some
09:42:27 additional costs and program
09:42:30 deliveries sense the March numbers,
09:42:32 so
another three months of
09:42:34 costs.
However, we're not able
09:42:36 to have the exact number on
09:42:38 that
09:42:41 because, as of the night of
09:42:43 July 8 when I
put this together,
09:42:46 there's still tractions
09:42:48 processing for year
09:42:50 end
09:42:54 fiscal 19-20.
The next quarter
09:42:56 report will reflect not only another
09:42:58 three months of spending but some of
09:43:00 the
clean-up
09:43:02 transactions for
09:43:05 June
09:43:07 30
09:43:11 .
There is more interest on
09:43:14 the bond procedures than we had prior
09:43:16 to, so the leftover be funds
09:43:18 from
the 2019 issuance so
09:43:20 a little more interest there.
This
09:43:22 number is going to start expanding
09:43:25 dramatically as we earn interest
09:43:27 on 164 consider
09:43:33 $164
millionlooking at the
09:43:35 graph, really there has been minor
09:43:38 changes, again,
09:43:42 as we have
09:43:44 made
09:43:47 changes in
both the interest
09:43:49 credits, really don't make a
09:43:51 change, is really just what we
09:43:53 kind of call the
09:43:57
finance business decimal changes at this
09:43:59 point.
As they started
09:44:01 making disbursements
09:44:03 on projects, these graph
09:44:05 numbers will start changing more
09:44:08
dramatically.
So that's what I have.
Any
09:44:10 questions?
09:44:12 >> Hey, Mike, I have a
09:44:14 question.
I was just getting ready to
09:44:16 type in the chat, but
09:44:18 since you paused, I'll
09:44:20 ask it, if I might.
If that is okay.
>>
09:44:22 Sure.
>> It is a question about
09:44:25 timing of bondishiance.
Can
09:44:27 you
09:44:31 issuance.
What is the driving factor?
Is it
09:44:33 the timing of the market,
09:44:35 the bond market, and
09:44:38 all
09:44:40 that?
09:44:44
>> Both of those go into
09:44:46 it.
We want to make sure we have
09:44:48 the fund being available to be
09:44:50 making draws.
We may make
09:44:52 draws as early
09:44:54 as perhaps December or January, so having the
09:44:56 money in place for that,
it does take
09:44:58 about six weeks to turn
09:45:01 a bond sale around,
09:45:03 so we want to, you know, make
09:45:05 sure we've
given us enough
09:45:07 time for that.
Yeah, right now,
09:45:10 in terms of where the
09:45:12 market is at, we
09:45:14 were extremely
09:45:16 fortunate and picked a good
week
09:45:18 to sell bonds.
If we sold the
09:45:20 week before or the week
09:45:23 after, those issuance costs may have been
09:45:25 different and the
number of folks
09:45:27 bidding on those bonds would have
09:45:29 been different.
09:45:31 So it's a really difficult market right
09:45:33 now to try to judge when to
09:45:36 do
09:45:38 it.
09:45:40 Management picked a good week.
The
09:45:42 other thing that we want to make sure
09:45:44 we're not doing is, you know, sitting
09:45:47 on a lot of
09:45:50 bond
09:45:52
proceeds, you
09:45:54 know, for too long.
So as
09:45:56 I mentioned, we'll earn
09:45:58 some interest as these bond funds
09:46:00 go down.
For example, if we had done
09:46:03 the entire issuance at
09:46:05 once, you know, we would
09:46:08 have 260-some million
dollars setting around
09:46:10 earning interest, and is that
09:46:13 really the most efficient use of that
09:46:15 money.
So that's the other thing
09:46:17 that goes into the decision
09:46:20 making, really over kind of looking at a
09:46:23
two-year window, when do we expect
09:46:25 to spend the money.
>> If
09:46:27 I may interject, Allan, the
09:46:29 city is complete more sensitive to
09:46:31 the fact that
09:46:34 we, once we
issue these bonds, these
09:46:36 start becoming a taxable event for the
09:46:38 taxpayers of Portland, and we're
09:46:40
very sensitive as
09:46:42 a jurisdiction not to
09:46:45 necessarily have to have taxpayers peaking
09:46:47 for something
that has not
09:46:49 yet come into fruition so that
09:46:51 is a general policy of the
09:46:54 City that is slightly
different and some
09:46:56 other local government's policies
09:46:58 and the way they look as these.
09:47:00 And the City is also,
09:47:02 as Mike indicated, is looking at
09:47:04 other -- we have a myriad of fund
09:47:06 being that
we're bonding in the City
09:47:09 over all so it fits
09:47:11 largely into some of the other thinking of what is
09:47:13
out there and what the City
09:47:15 is going
09:47:18 for.
09:47:21 OMF, debt management, did a great
09:47:24 job with the sale.
We were
09:47:26 thankful they could it time this just right.
It
09:47:28 is a lot of
09:47:30 work.
They also did an
09:47:33 amazing job with
09:47:36 predicting what we would need the next two years.
>>
09:47:38 That is helpful, thank
09:47:40 you.
A question for Jill
09:47:42 about the tash board.
I don't know if we're going to return
09:47:44 to that or if others have questions.
>>
09:47:47 Go
09:47:49 ahead, Allan.
We
09:47:51 don't have team to return to the dashboard so
09:47:53 we might as well talk about it now.
>>
09:47:55 A question I had,
09:47:57 I wasn't fire if it was something we
09:48:00 discussed before it partly involved
09:48:03 the
115th Division.
On
09:48:06 the Matrix dashboard,
09:48:08 which is super helpful, also.
It
09:48:10 shows the population service focus is
09:48:12 families rather than some of the other
09:48:15 priority
populations,
09:48:17 immigrants, refugees and
09:48:19 communities of color.
And, with the location of
09:48:21 that, I guess
09:48:23 I'm curious why we wouldn't have
09:48:25 the other priority
populations there and
09:48:28 how that gets
09:48:30 determined.
I don't remember if this
09:48:32 is a conversation we had before or not.
>> I
09:48:35 think this was a conversation we may
09:48:37 have had at the
09:48:39 award level when we have awarded
09:48:41 them.
>> Okay.
>> But,
09:48:43 actually, today --
>> They're here.
>> They
09:48:45 are here and you can ask them
09:48:47 that question.
>> Okay.
>> And I
09:48:49 think I saw them come
09:48:51 in, so they're probably taking
09:48:54 notes already.
>> Perfect, thank
09:48:56 you.
>> Okay.
09:49:02 >> So, if there are
09:49:04 no questions on
09:49:06 the project highlights or
09:49:09 dashboard or expenditure reports,
shall
09:49:11 we continue on the
09:49:13 presentations?
If
09:49:15 okay, then go
09:49:18 ahead.
I think I am up
09:49:21 next.
09:49:27 I think one of the things
09:49:29 we wanted to briefly update is
09:49:31 the impact of covid-19.
09:49:33 Next slide, please.
One of the
09:49:35 things we, as the
09:49:37 Housing Bureau be, have started
09:49:39 working on is developed four work
groups
09:49:41 to look at the impact of covid in
09:49:43 terms of the housing
09:49:46 development, operational
stabilization
09:49:48 and rental stabilization
09:49:51 and homeownership stabilization,
09:49:53 and this is for both the
long and
09:49:55 short-term.
Today I will be talking about the
09:49:57 affordable housing development, because that's
09:49:59 what is impacting
the
09:50:01 bonds.
Because our projects are not yet
09:50:04 constructed.
So we will
09:50:07 be looking at the information I'll share with
09:50:09 you today is really about what
09:50:11 we're
seeing in over all
09:50:13 development from the
09:50:15 developers, perspectives from the construction
09:50:17 side, as
well as the
09:50:20 financing side.
We have a final meeting to
09:50:22 be held on
09:50:25 project
09:50:28 stabilization and that will probably be
09:50:30 happening in
next month.
Next slide,
09:50:32 please.
And the process for all of the
09:50:34 work groups follow as similar process
09:50:36 to talk about the needs
09:50:39
assessments and what -- and then,
09:50:41 what is the feasibility.
Essentially,
09:50:43 what is it that
09:50:45 PHB have in our control
09:50:49 that we can help, be it our projects
09:50:51 or be it
the
09:50:53 residents or the clients what can we
09:50:55 do to help.
And,
09:50:57 one of the things we are
09:51:00 really looking at are the
09:51:02 impacts.
What is the long and short-term
09:51:04 impact, the extent, but also how are we
09:51:06 going to be addressing
09:51:09
inequities?
And, receiving
09:51:12 feedback from the different work groups.
09:51:15 Next slide,
09:51:17 please.
09:51:22 A summary of the first meeting we
09:51:24 had was back in May
09:51:27 with the housing developers, and they spoke
09:51:29
about a number of areas where they
09:51:32 had some concerns, there were
09:51:33 some construction issues that
09:51:36
relates to delays and
09:51:38 permitting.
There's some financing issues
09:51:40 that relates to, say,
09:51:43 senior debt and also tax credit
09:51:45 pricing.
Concerns about the
09:51:48 projects, both in
09:51:50 sort of in their portfolio, as well
09:51:52 as those coming
09:51:55 across.
There had been concerns especially
09:51:57 about commercial.
As you all know,
09:51:59 a number of our
09:52:02 projects have commercial ground
09:52:04 floor or maybe some mixed income
09:52:06
and there are some areas of that
09:52:08 there were some concerns.
But
09:52:11 there was also some upsides,
09:52:13 potential for land banking,
09:52:15 increased competition,
09:52:17 so maybe
pricing on some of
09:52:19 the contracts.
And
09:52:21 possibly some changes in
09:52:24 policies that might be beneficial to
09:52:27 affordable housing.
Next
09:52:29 slide,
09:52:31 please.
09:52:36 The next meeting we had was talking with
09:52:38 contractors,
09:52:41 subcontractors and different business
associations that was
09:52:43 involved in the contracting
09:52:45 business.
So you can see,
09:52:47 and I'm sorry, I
09:52:49 didn't mention it earlier, the
09:52:52 participants are on the left
09:52:54 side,
the take aways are on
09:52:56 the right side.
One of the key
09:52:59 takeaways we heard from the contractors
09:53:01 was keep the money flowing.
09:53:04 I should mention we had takeaways
09:53:06 focused on sort of general takeaways
09:53:08 and another slide that
focuses on
09:53:10 the impact on equity,
09:53:12 and especially on equity and
09:53:14 contracting.
So the first takeaway
09:53:17 was, keep the money flowing.
All the
09:53:19 contractors and subs
09:53:21 and association were saying the feeling
09:53:23 in the market
09:53:25 was that the
commercial construction
09:53:27 was going to
09:53:30 take a slow down,
09:53:32 and many of the contractors needed
09:53:34 to have
affordable housing
09:53:36 in order to continue in
09:53:38 having a stable business.
So this was sort
09:53:40 of keep the money going.
09:53:42 There was also some sort of balancing
09:53:44 that they needed
09:53:47 between workers and
09:53:50 issues about safety.
And sort of
09:53:52 the construction schedule.
There was
09:53:54 a lack of PPE,
09:53:57 supplies, all kinds of sort
09:53:59 of issues about
09:54:01 liability, safety protocols,
the list
09:54:03 goes on, you can see.
09:54:06 There was some discussion about
09:54:08 potential need for construction
09:54:10 contingencies and the
09:54:13 importance of
having that built in so that
09:54:15 workers and contractors
09:54:17 could be safer.
09:54:19 But there was also some
09:54:22 shoutouts that folks made,
09:54:25 especially to BDS with
09:54:27 their technical
09:54:29
solutions.
And, this relates to
09:54:33 inspections, they were, the
09:54:35 BDS folks were really great on that in
09:54:37 terms of
inspections and
09:54:39 design review.
Next
09:54:42 slide,
09:54:44 please.
09:54:47 In terms of delving deeper
09:54:49 into equity and contracting,
09:54:51 as you know, for the
09:54:53 bonds, we have a
09:54:56 30%
DMWSB
09:54:58 requirement or
09:55:01 target, and
09:55:03 that was something I think
09:55:05 all of the contractors
09:55:08 realized, this
covid situation is really
09:55:10 impacting, especially the communities
09:55:12 of
09:55:14 color, and because of that,
09:55:17 too,
they are also seeing it happening
09:55:19 in the contracting world
09:55:21 or the construction world.
There was
09:55:23 a talk about less established
09:55:26 firms having no
09:55:28 or smaller war chests because
09:55:30 they're
having a harder time
09:55:32 withstanding the downturn.
And a
09:55:34 number of black-observed
09:55:38 observe owned businesses were just going out
09:55:40 of business
so that was a
09:55:43 major
09:55:45 concern among
09:55:47 many.
There was also a
09:55:49 desire for set asides
09:55:51 for specified firm being,
09:55:53 especially larger projects.
So those
09:55:55 projects where we have hundreds of
09:55:58 units, maybe the smaller contractors
09:56:00 can't do, say, dry
wall or
09:56:02 windows for that many, but maybe they
09:56:04 can do a smaller
09:56:06 packet.
There was
09:56:08 also some questions about whether or
09:56:10 not we had some preservation could be
09:56:12 used for
certified
09:56:14 firms, although we have also seen
09:56:16 that, from the
09:56:19 developer side, we have, and
09:56:21
preservation was actually harder to do because of the
09:56:25 occupied residents.
09:56:27 Another key, I think, observation
09:56:29 was that there were fewer women
09:56:31 on the job
09:56:33 sites, and it's not
just
09:56:35 childcare for women but for
09:56:37 all participants it was being
09:56:41 impacted.
So some things for
09:56:43 us to consider, especially as we go and
09:56:45 look at how could we mitigate
09:56:47 the impact
of covid,
09:56:50 especially on our
09:56:52 DMWSB certified
09:56:54 firms.
Next slide, please.
09:56:59 In the final
09:57:01 group, we had just this week,
09:57:03 earlier last week, talked with
09:57:06 affordable housing
funders and
09:57:09 investors.
And across the
09:57:11 board, there was
09:57:13 conservative under writing for loans and
09:57:16 low income housing tax
credits.
And
09:57:18 this becomes very critical because,
09:57:20 as you all know,
09:57:22 when we sought the
09:57:26 Constitutional
09:57:28
amendment for the production of
09:57:30 units with this bond, we wanted
09:57:32 to leverage the
09:57:35 funds.
And, with the impact for
09:57:37 our loans and our
09:57:39 equity, that can impact how much
09:57:41 we're going to be able
to leverage.
09:57:43 And we heard
09:57:45 from our
09:57:47 participants that capital was
09:57:49 becoming more selective.
There
09:57:52 was some
09:57:54 concerns that tax credit
09:57:57 pricing, they all mentioned expecting
09:57:59 tax credits to drop
to
09:58:02 about 96-cent being instead of where things
09:58:04 may have been, I
09:58:06 think, in our review of all of
09:58:08 our
projects.
We are
09:58:11 about 94, 95-cents on average when
09:58:13 we awarded the projects.
09:58:16 There was also some concern
09:58:19 being that commitments made by
09:58:21 the investors were going to be
09:58:23 okay, if
it was made
09:58:25 in 2020, and we had
09:58:27 signed term sheets.
2021 could
09:58:29 be more of a
09:58:32 concern.
And some wait and see attitude as
09:58:34 to where things happen and
09:58:36 how the stabilization
09:58:39 would work.
There
09:58:41 was also a concern about the
09:58:44 impact for
09:58:47 our buy pock
09:58:52 BIPOC community, especially
09:58:55 investors
serving that
09:58:58 BIPOC communities because it was
09:59:00 shifting from those with a, call
09:59:02 it established
record and balance
09:59:04 sheet.
As we all know, some of our
09:59:07 developers focused on communities of color
09:59:09 may not have a strong
financial
09:59:13 sense.
09:59:16 There was, you can call it some
09:59:18 concerns but also talking
09:59:21 about some potential opportunities
09:59:23 in
looking at land
09:59:25 banking, somebody even
09:59:27 mentioned you had
09:59:30 a-plus-plus properties coming on the
09:59:32
market, which we had not seen
09:59:34 ever in the past.
Next
09:59:36 slide, please.
09:59:41 I wanted to show this slide for you,
09:59:43 it shows the history of tax credit
09:59:46 pricing.
Just to let you know, when we look
09:59:48 at this little chart, the
09:59:50 latest one was from 2015, but
09:59:52 I know
we've had more updated
09:59:54 slides that show about right
09:59:57 now, about 95-cents on the
09:59:59 dollar and we're
10:00:01
seeing that
10:00:03 history
10:00:06 has shown
10:00:08 that
10:00:13 LIHTC is volatile so we can
10:00:15 look at what we are as
10:00:17 an
10:00:19
institution
10:00:22 is
10:00:30 changing.
We're working with our
10:00:32 partners, very supportive of
10:00:34 them, you can see Mike mentioned earlier
10:00:36 in his
expenditure
10:00:39 report, we have already made a number of
10:00:42 contingencies to support them.
Questions?
>>
10:00:44 Can I just ask if you would clarify
10:00:46 for
10:00:48 the group
10:00:50 what, for instance, a decrease in tax credit
10:00:52
pricing to
10:00:55 the 2008 levels that
10:00:57 we saw would mean in terms
10:00:59 of our assumptions for what we thought
10:01:01
we could leverage for tax
10:01:03 credits in our bond projects
10:01:05 so what kind of financial gap would that
potentially
10:01:08 create this some of our
10:01:09 assumptionings on the
10:01:12 projects in process over all.
>>
10:01:14 Sure.
Thank you,
10:01:17 Shannon.
10:01:24 If we went to
10:01:27 90-cents on the dollar, it would be
10:01:29 an additional request across all
10:01:33 projects.
Some had lower
10:01:35 assumptions already, some may have commitments in
10:01:37 terms of letters of interest.
10:01:39 So we will have to work with each of the
10:01:43 projects.
>> Okay.
10:01:46 So that gives you
10:01:48 a change.
Okay, thanks,
10:01:51 Shannon.
Any other
10:01:55 questions?
Allan, you
10:01:58 look like you're ready to say something.
>>
10:02:00 Do any of the other
10:02:02 committee members have questions?
10:02:13 >> I don't.
I thought
10:02:16 it was sad to hear the
10:02:18 minority contractors, some may not be
10:02:20 able to survive the
10:02:22 covid,
just sadding, but I
10:02:24 don't have a
10:02:27 question about
10:02:29 it
10:02:31 .
>> We were talking about the
10:02:33 contractors, the different ones, as much
10:02:36 as a third to 40% of the
10:02:38
contractors they knew were going into financial
10:02:40 difficulties so it is a
10:02:42 major concern that we
have.
10:02:47 >> That is an area
10:02:49 that, one of my questions, I
10:02:51 know the city has part of
10:02:53 its -- has passed
10:02:55
covid-19 value statement around
10:02:57 equity, and I think this is an area
10:02:59 where it might
10:03:01 reflect.
I think when very often we think about
10:03:04 the impacts
10:03:06 on communities that haven't had
10:03:08 access to
opportunity much in the past, we find
10:03:11 a lot of those opportunities now
10:03:13 are the last ones in the
door.
As
10:03:15 we hit these crisis
10:03:17 points, we know host to last ones in the door
10:03:19 tend to be the first ones
10:03:21 out
the door in these moments.
So
10:03:24 I hope it is something we can pay attention to
10:03:26 and figure out if there is
10:03:28 anyway for us to
10:03:30
reverse that
10:03:33 trend
10:03:49 .
This is maybe more information
10:03:51 than we need, but
10:03:54 my sense with
10:03:57 LIHTC, there is some correlation
10:04:00 to
10:04:02
LIHTC pricing, whether it is the economy or
10:04:05 most likely, I think,
10:04:07 tax related.
Corporate tax
10:04:10 rates or potentially the
10:04:13 LIHTC pricing.
Do you know what
10:04:16 pressures on
10:04:18 LIHTC we might be able to anticipate?
Maybe that is
10:04:20 not a question we need to answer other than
10:04:22 we anticipate there is going to be
10:04:24 a
downward pressure on
10:04:26 pricing.
The other part of that question
10:04:28 is, if a
10:04:31 project, if part of
10:04:34 their funding set is
10:04:37 LIHTC, it is not
necessarily the bureau's
10:04:39 responsibility to make up that gap, right?
10:04:46 That is part of their funding stream in the
10:04:48 project, not directly part of
10:04:50 PHB.
Am I phrasing that right?
>>
10:04:53 Well, there's two things.
One is you
10:04:55 had two questions, right?
>> Yes.
>>
10:04:57 One is a downward pricing
10:05:00 on
10:05:02 LIHTC and what are some of
10:05:04 the, you can call factors, affecting
10:05:06
appetite.
What we
10:05:09 saw last
10:05:11 year
10:05:15 was some really great pricing.
10:05:18 Even 100-cents on the dollar.
That
10:05:20 was
10:05:22 really great.
Actually,
10:05:24 we saw some that went over.
We knew
10:05:26 that people were attracted to
10:05:29 LIHTC because the market was good, they were
10:05:31 making money and
they united some kind
10:05:33 of tax credit to off set
10:05:35 those.
So it was, I
10:05:37 think, a good opportunity.
We also saw
10:05:39 a lot of, heard from our developer
10:05:42 partners that, when they went
10:05:44 out to bid, they had
10:05:46
multiple offers, so they could pick
10:05:48 and choose so these made these things
10:05:50 where we're seeing the
pricing may
10:05:52 come down a little bit,
10:05:54 but also the level of interest
10:05:57 or the number of offers
10:05:59 or the
terms and conditions
10:06:01 may change.
>> Okay.
>> That's
10:06:03 the first one.
So we don't
10:06:05 know.
There is a lot of uncertainty
10:06:07 in the market.
I can we all wish we
10:06:10 had a crystal
10:06:12 ball.
And your question about, is it up
10:06:14 to the Bureau to make
10:06:16 up the gap?
Normally,
10:06:18 we don't make up gaps, but I
10:06:20 think the issue for us is
10:06:22 we want
10:06:24 affordable housing to
essentially house
10:06:26 the people
10:06:29 that we know
10:06:35 come out of this situation that need
10:06:37 housing.
And it is
10:06:39 affecting our communities of
10:06:41 color more disproportionately so
10:06:44 we really want to get those
out.
So
10:06:46 we've been working with our different
10:06:48 developer partners on getting
10:06:50 also their different sources
of
10:06:52 funding.
I should have mentioned
10:06:54 earlier in my dashboard, we actually had two
10:06:56 of our
10:06:58 partners apply for
10:07:02 OHCS
lift and two of them got
10:07:04 it.
It was Stark Street
10:07:06 which got, I think, over -- let
10:07:08 me just get my
10:07:10 notes here.
10:07:13 3.8million.
And Las
10:07:17 Adalitas got 5.4 million.
So
10:07:19 we're helping them get the
10:07:21 funding.
We're also working with
10:07:24 them -- yay.
To work with their
10:07:26 numbers in terms of can they value
10:07:28 engineer.
How can they work to mitigate
10:07:30 the impact of
10:07:35 pricing
10:07:40 .
>> I see with the two
10:07:42 products, it does list the funding source so
10:07:44 to talk about how that mix comes
10:07:46
in.
I appreciate
10:07:49 the been bureau's commitment to support the
10:07:51 projects, given our over all
10:07:55 goals.
>> Ask the hard questions to our
10:07:57 developer partners.
10:08:00 Okay.
>> So they might
10:08:02 get
10:08:04 a pass.
>> Any other
10:08:07 questions?
10:08:13 Okay.
If not, then I will hand it
10:08:15 over to Tanya
10:08:19 and
10:08:22 introduce anna Mann and go for it.
10:08:25 I guess, Tanya, do you want
10:08:27 me to make the
10:08:30 introductions.
>> This is Tanya.
You
10:08:32 can make the introductions.
We're
10:08:34 also ahead of schedule a couple
10:08:36 minutes so maybe take this opportunity
10:08:38 to go back.
10:08:41 Dr. Holt is with us.
We have some kind
10:08:43 of administrative items from our last
10:08:45 meeting notes we may want
10:08:47 to go through
those
10:08:50 process steps before we get started
10:08:52 on
10:08:54 project
10:08:56 teams
10:09:03 .
>> We should take
10:09:05 advantage.
Hi, everybody, by the
10:09:07 way.
Was with you on
10:09:09 one instrument but my web cam
10:09:12 doesn't work with that one so I was
10:09:13 trying to get in
on the
10:09:15 ipad so you could actually see and
10:09:17 hear me and was
10:09:19 having the challenge with that, but
10:09:22
hello, technology is great when
10:09:24 it works.
Thanks, Shannon,
10:09:26 for
10:09:28 opening
10:09:30 up.
Operating with just keen
10:09:33 efficiency, getting the meeting up
10:09:35 and going, thump for
10:09:37 covering that.
There are a few things we
10:09:39 do need to cover.
We did
10:09:41 not go over and approve meeting
10:09:43 minutes from our
10:09:46 last meeting
10:09:52 .
We will go over
10:09:54 that.
Everyone had a chance to look
10:09:56 them over.
Are there any
10:09:59 questions from the Oversight
10:10:01 Committee.
>> Susan emmons,
10:10:03 I reviewed them and they looked fine
10:10:05 to me, the minute notes from
10:10:08 the last
10:10:10 meeting.
10:10:13 >> Excellent.
If everyone is okay
10:10:15 with the approval of the
10:10:17 notes from the last meeting, in this
10:10:20 environment, you
can do a thumbs up and I think we
10:10:22 would be okay with that.
10:10:25 Perfect.
100% approved
10:10:27 for the meeting minutes.
We did
10:10:29 our check in to
10:10:32 make sure that our party, all the
10:10:34 members of the Oversight
10:10:37 Committee that
are present identified
10:10:40 themselves.
Todd is not able to make the
10:10:42 meeting and indicated he would not be here
10:10:44 for that.
10:10:47 Let's see if there is anything else
10:10:49 that we needed to
10:10:52 cover.
I think Janet did a
10:10:54 great job, if
10:10:56 you've got comments or
10:10:59 committees, please use the chat function
to do so
10:11:01 to engage in that
10:11:04 way if you are guests in the meeting.
I normally
10:11:06 say this is a meeting that is open to the
10:11:08 public, while not a
10:11:11 public
10:11:13 meeting.
That
10:11:15 simply means this is a
10:11:17 meeting of
10:11:19 the Bond and
10:11:22 Oversight Committee
10:11:25 meeting, if you want to
10:11:27
weigh in, please feel
10:11:29 free to contact us
10:11:31 directly.
Shannon, was there anything else
10:11:34 we needed to tap into?
>> I believe that is
10:11:36 the bulk of our business items
10:11:38 so we will come around again at the end for
10:11:40 any
folks who have
10:11:42 indicated that they want
10:11:44 to have public testimony.
10:11:47 Otherwise, I think we're ready
10:11:49 to hear from
10:11:51 our two project teams, unless
10:11:53 others have something
else they would like to
10:11:55 address.
10:12:01 >> Well, let's
10:12:04 go.
Project team updates.
I don't know,
10:12:06 Tanya or Jill, are you doing the introductions.
>>
10:12:09 This is Tanya again.
I can do the
10:12:11 introductions.
We're really excited to
10:12:13 have our bond-awarded
10:12:15 project teams coming to give us
10:12:17 some updates.
We will start things
10:12:19 off with the project
10:12:22 team for the
10:12:25 Anna Mann
10:12:27 house.
10:12:34 I will hand it over
10:12:36 for them to
10:12:38 walk through their presentation.
>> Good morning.
Thank you for
10:12:40 inviting us to be with us today
10:12:42 can everybody hear
10:12:45 me
10:12:47 okay?
10:12:50
My name is Julie
10:12:53 Garver, I'm housing development
10:12:55 director for Innovative
10:12:58 Housing.
We have Carolyn
10:13:00 doughery, project developer
10:13:03 and our financial
10:13:05 guru for Innovative
10:13:07 House projects.
10:13:09 And also Leah Cooper who is
10:13:11 director of housing
10:13:13 operations, so they will be chiming in on a few
10:13:15 of
the slides and available to answer
10:13:18 questions, as well.
10:13:21 So we're starting out with a
10:13:23 picture of our property.
We
10:13:25 are still just kind of pinching
10:13:27 ourselves to know that
10:13:30 we got this property and that we were
10:13:32
awarded funds.
It's an
10:13:34 amazing property.
The more that
10:13:36 we dig into it with the team, the
10:13:38 more impressed we
10:13:40 are at how the previous
10:13:43 owners of
the buildings were good
10:13:45 caretakers and how this land
10:13:47 will really benefit vulnerable
10:13:50 populations
into the future.
So we're just
10:13:52 -- we continue to be really thrilled
10:13:54 with the property.
Next
10:13:57 slide, please.
10:14:00 So, our
10:14:02 unit mix
10:14:04 is has remained
10:14:07 consistent percentage wise, while we were able to
10:14:09 add the south
building and the
10:14:11 additional 40
10:14:15 units so the
10:14:18 unit mix and income
10:14:20 restrictions are depicted on the
slide.
10:14:22 For our service partners, we
10:14:24 have innovative housing that is
10:14:26 providing some of the
10:14:29 PSH and resident
services.
We are
10:14:32 partnering with
10:14:35 Irco, the immigrant and
10:14:38 refugee community organization, as well
10:14:40 as Luke
10:14:45 Dorf.
10:14:47 The individuals that experience homelessness or
10:14:50 risk of homelessness.
10:14:52 Next
10:14:54 slide.
10:15:08 Carolyn will talk about funding sources.
>> The
10:15:10 funding sources are ones we have
10:15:12 worked with in the past.
We are
10:15:14 using both low income housing
10:15:16 tax credits and historic tax
10:15:18 credits, since it is a historic
10:15:20
building.
And the main other source we're
10:15:22 using is a
10:15:25 private first mortgage.
And then we're
10:15:27 getting a little bit of energy funding in the
10:15:30 project.
There was some talk before
10:15:32 this about tax credit pricing.
We have
10:15:35 partnered with key bank.
We were
10:15:37 lucky enough to get an
10:15:40 LOI for them before covid.
We did a
10:15:43 competitive LOI process and they
10:15:45 were far and away the best partner to work
10:15:47 with.
They offered us
10:15:49 strong terms.
I can tell you,
10:15:51 Sara and I between us have talked to them
10:15:53 three times in the last month to check
10:15:55 in
to make sure they will hold their
10:15:57 pricing, and they have reassured us
10:16:00 repeatedly they will.
I had a consideration with
10:16:02 a different investor we have no relationship with and got
10:16:04 her feedback
on the
10:16:06 market, and she reassured me and
10:16:08 also said that direct investors she
10:16:10 has seen are continuing
to hold pricing, they
10:16:12 are dropping back and not investing
10:16:14 in any new projects, which is part of
10:16:16 the
reason the pricing market is softening
10:16:19 because there is less people out
10:16:21 there.
But, I feel
10:16:23 fairly confident that these sources are
10:16:25 going to stay.
I also feel like we have a little
10:16:27 bit of cushion in this,
10:16:29 these sources.
I have been
10:16:31 fairly conservative on what the interest rates
10:16:34 are going to be.
Right now,
10:16:36 the rates I'm using
10:16:38 are above what current rates are, but
10:16:41 rates are at such historic
lows
10:16:43 I didn't want to counter them getting
10:16:45 lower but I'm opt mess particular they will
10:16:48 remain lower
than I have projected and will
10:16:50 be able to increase the senior debt a little
10:16:52 bit if we need to,
10:16:54 any
more funding along the
10:16:57 way.
>> You
10:16:59 may have questions but that is my
10:17:02 main blob, so let's move on to
10:17:04 the next slide.
>> Okay.
10:17:06 Talking a little bit about development
10:17:09 progress,
10:17:11 our team has been working
10:17:15 consistently, special
thanks to week
10:17:18 masi at PHB, she has been
10:17:20 helpful in helping us move through the
10:17:23 process and
navigating the steps we
10:17:25 need to do and just being part of
10:17:27 the team and give her input, so
10:17:29 we
appreciate that.
So the
10:17:31 architects have been
10:17:34 working through design development
10:17:37 phase.
We completed our
10:17:39 tree survey and we are going to
10:17:42 be able
10:17:44 to save a significant amount of trees,
10:17:46
especially the larger tree.
We had a
10:17:48 team meeting earlier this
10:17:50 morning, and the team reported they
10:17:52 were able to come up with a
very
10:17:54 unique structural
10:17:56 system for one small portion of
10:17:59 the south building that takes the pressure
10:18:01
off of one of our very
10:18:03 large trees on site,
10:18:06 so we were very excited
10:18:08 to hear about
10:18:10 that.
And we are excited about the
10:18:13 addition of the south building, the 40
10:18:15 more units,
10:18:17 and give our
10:18:19
appreciation to staff and the committee for
10:18:24 adding.
It will allow the project
10:18:26 to increase its number of people
10:18:29 served and also the strength and
stability of the
10:18:31 project.
And, then, we're exploring
10:18:33 some creative partnerships for
10:18:35 resident be
10:18:38 gardening and dance yoga
classes
10:18:40 for children.
And Leah from our office
10:18:42 can talk a little bit
10:18:44 more about
10:18:46 that
10:18:51 .
>> Good morning, everyone.
It is
10:18:53 early days in the developing the programming
10:18:56 aspects but the idea is to have a
10:18:59 gardening
program that will promote healthy
10:19:01 eating, so our residents will
10:19:03 be working a garden and taking
fresh
10:19:06 fruits and vegetables back to their
10:19:08 units.
The project is so unique, it has
10:19:10 a lot of space for cooking and cooking
10:19:12 classes and so we're really
excited about
10:19:14 that.
There is also some unique
10:19:16 spaces in the building for us to be able to
10:19:19 have dance classes and yoga
10:19:21
classes, and we're really hoping to
10:19:23 tie that with our
10:19:25 relationship with IRCO so these
10:19:27 are
culturally responsive
10:19:29 classes so that we can, you
10:19:32 know, meet the needs of all
10:19:34 of ourretion dents.
>>
10:19:36 Great, thank you.
Next slide.
10:19:48 A couple of changes,
10:19:50 the one you're probably familiar
10:19:52 with the zoning
10:19:55 increased the density
10:19:58 of the
property too
10:20:00 RM1 which was the trigger to allow us
10:20:02 to include the 40 units and the
10:20:05 addition and
funding of the 40 units
10:20:07 to the project.
So those have
10:20:09 been the major changes.
The minor
10:20:11 changes are just normal things that happen in the
10:20:13 course of development.
We're working with
10:20:15 a partner that
10:20:17 is adjacent to us who
10:20:20 is building a senior live
10:20:22 facility along
Sandy, so we're
10:20:25 cooperatively working together on
10:20:27 property line issues and things
10:20:29 that they need
and things that we
10:20:31 need, and so that conversation is going well.
10:20:33 Next slide,
10:20:36 please.
10:20:38 So our
10:20:41 DMWSB update, we
10:20:43 are
10:20:45 working on
10:20:48 contracting with our mechanical
10:20:51 electrical, plumbing and
fire
10:20:53 sprinkler right now,
10:20:55 and this is a
10:20:57 great opportunity to include more
10:21:01 certified
10:21:04
participation and we've done things
10:21:06 like Jill was mentioning
10:21:08 earlier, splitting scopes
10:21:10 so there can
be more
10:21:12 participation so that split has mainly focused
10:21:14 on having the new buildings in
10:21:16 one scope and
the old buildings
10:21:18 in another scope.
And it
10:21:20 allows for people with
10:21:23 different skill sets and
10:21:25 it's going to bump up
10:21:27 our participation, so
we are
10:21:30 definitely on track for, you know,
10:21:32 the 70 to 80%
10:21:36 MEP certified participation, and then
10:21:38 be
the on track for 30% for
10:21:40 the entire
10:21:43 project.
We are working
10:21:45 with architect
10:21:47 and contractor now,
10:21:49 planning our extended out
10:21:52 reach programs, working
with, you
10:21:54 know, who to get involved to be
10:21:57 most effective on
10:22:00 making sure that our out reach is
10:22:02
targeted and effective and thorough.
10:22:04 And we will be having early
10:22:06 meetings for certified subs
10:22:09 prior to the bid period opening, so
10:22:11 we're
looking at, you
10:22:13 know, early fall time frame
10:22:15 for some of those meetings,
10:22:17 and that gives time for
10:22:19
certified subs to come and meet the
10:22:21 general
10:22:23 contractor and
10:22:25 also look for assistance, if there
10:22:28 is
any assistance needed
10:22:30 in preparing bids and then
10:22:32 also plenty of time to do
10:22:34 extended out
10:22:37 reach.
Next slide,
10:22:39 please.
10:22:41 So issues and challenges.
10:22:44 They're pretty normal that come up
10:22:46 during building investigation.
We do
10:22:48 need to replace a
10:22:50 sewer line that's inside the
10:22:52 existing building, under the floor
10:22:54 of the
basement.
It's in a
10:22:56 pretty good place to do that.
The good
10:22:58 news is that the exterior sewer
10:23:01 lines are in good shape.
We did a
10:23:03 major investigation and sewer scope, and so
10:23:05 it is good news that those can
10:23:07 be reused.
10:23:10 And, then, we're working
10:23:12 with PBOT on
10:23:14 our driveways.
There were
10:23:16 existing driveways to the site.
10:23:18 They were fairly narrow and they're
10:23:20 different, today's street standards are different.
10:23:22 So we're working with
10:23:25 PBOT to see what we can
10:23:28 do to
10:23:30 both meet their requirements
10:23:32 and preserve their
10:23:35
trees.
Some are on site, some are street
10:23:37 trees but we want to
10:23:39 preserve as many trees as we can so
10:23:41 we're
working through that issue.
Next
10:23:44 slide, please.
Leah, this is
10:23:46 Leah's slide to talk about.
10:23:50 >> Sure.
So
10:23:52 we have developed a partnership with
10:23:55 IRCO.
We have a long-standing partnership with
10:23:57 them, but we've developed an
10:24:00 MOU for referrals for
priority
10:24:02 refers, rather, for the
10:24:04 units at
10:24:11 Anna Mann.
10:24:13 We hope to speak to them a lot in
10:24:16 the planning and design
10:24:18 programs so we can be designing
10:24:20 programs
around our space as much as
10:24:22 possible.
We're also working with
10:24:24 Luke Dorf.
10:24:26 Specifically, we have an MOU to
10:24:28 work with, our
10:24:30 relationships with Luke
10:24:32 Dorf to provide
comprehensive
10:24:35 case management for
10:24:38 families looking for mental
10:24:40 health or drug and addiction
services,
10:24:42 so we will be working with those agencies quite a
10:24:44 bit as we develop programming.
10:24:46 And, then, IHI will be
10:24:48 staffing the PSH
10:24:51 positions, so we will have two
10:24:53 full-time service staff in
the building.
One
10:24:56 will be working specifically with the
10:24:59 PSH
10:25:03 units developing comprehensive
10:25:05 services with those
families, and starting
10:25:07 working with them at the
10:25:09 application we found.
We found in our other
10:25:12 projects that starting work very early on
10:25:13 in the process is helpful.
10:25:16 Then, the resident service coordinator will
10:25:18 do the work of all of
10:25:21 our resident service
10:25:23
coordinators, which is stabilization,
10:25:26 eviction prevention, referrals,
10:25:28 resources and working very
closely with the
10:25:31 community.
We are aware that as these
10:25:34 residents settle in to the community, it will be a new area
10:25:36 for a lot of
them and that will
10:25:38 present challenges we're
10:25:40 hoping to develop really good relationships with the
10:25:42
community around the
10:25:45 project.
10:25:48 >> The one other thing that's
10:25:50 on this slide that we're going to be
10:25:53 working toward is working with
some
10:25:56 existing residents on getting
10:25:58 some feedback about
10:26:00 outdoor amenities and
10:26:02 community space.
Leah, you want to
10:26:04 speak just a little bit more about that?
10:26:06 >>
10:26:10 Yeah.
The building and the
10:26:13 land that it's on
10:26:15 is really unique space so
10:26:17 we wanted to have some
10:26:19 feedback
specifically around safety and issues like
10:26:21 that, so working with them about
10:26:24 lighting and safety
10:26:26
concerns, and also talking to them about what
10:26:29 kind of thing they want on
10:26:31 the project.
So what are our
10:26:33 playgrounds going to look like?
What are the
10:26:35 lawns going to look like?
What kind of
10:26:38 amenities can we offer that
10:26:40 really meet the needs of the community
10:26:42 rather than just
assuming
10:26:44 our community would want a certain
10:26:46 thing.
We really hope to get some feedback so the
10:26:48 place feels very welcoming and
10:26:51 liveable and useful to
everyone.
>>
10:26:53 Great, thank you.
Next slide,
10:26:56 please.
10:26:59 Okay so that's our
10:27:01 presentation.
We're happy to answer
10:27:04 questions, if you have any questions
10:27:06 for
10:27:08 us.
10:27:12 >> Hi, Julie.
10:27:14 Carolyn and Leah, this is Jill.
Thank you so
10:27:16 much for your presentation.
10:27:18 I see in the group chat that
10:27:21 Allan had
10:27:23 a question about,
10:27:25 are there any -- with the addition of
10:27:28 the
historic tax
10:27:30 credits funding and the
10:27:32 historic destination are there any
10:27:34 additional requirements
that might present
10:27:37 barriers to development?
>>
10:27:40 Well, we have utilized
10:27:42 historic tax credits on several
10:27:46 projects in the
10:27:49 past, and so we know what
10:27:51
to look out for and we
10:27:53 have a consultant that's on board to
10:27:55 help us through the historic tax
10:27:57 credit
process, as
10:27:59 well.
It's going to align
10:28:01 very closely
10:28:04 with the City landmarks process we
10:28:06 need to go through, which is,
as
10:28:08 you know, similar to
10:28:10 design review.
And, so,
10:28:13 we've already gone
10:28:15 through our design
10:28:17 advice request hearing
10:28:19 feedback, we got that
10:28:22
feedback from the landmarks
10:28:24 commission, and they are, they
10:28:26 provided positive feedback about
10:28:28 the
property to us.
They like the
10:28:30 south building, they like that
10:28:32 it's going to buffer
10:28:34 the original landmarks building
from
10:28:36 the parking area, they like that
10:28:38 we're going to be saving so many
10:28:41 trees.
They provided positive feedback
10:28:43 on the exterior materials and
10:28:45 design of the new
10:28:47 buildings.
So, we were,
10:28:50 you know,
10:28:52 cautiously
10:28:54 optimistic bland Mark's initial feedback.
We
10:28:57 also had a
10:29:00 preliminary SHIPO
10:29:06 review, and Shepherded that
10:29:08 for us through the environmental review
10:29:11
process and their comments were also
10:29:13 positive.
They asked some questions about a couple
10:29:15 of areas, which is not
10:29:17 unusual.
We're continuing to design some of
10:29:19 the historic areas,
10:29:21 historic entry to the building is a little
10:29:23
awkward, it has had a lot of changes over
10:29:25 the years, so we will be working
10:29:28 through those issues to
satisfy
10:29:30 land parks and
10:29:33 Shipo and the National
10:29:35 Parks Service.
So there
10:29:37 are you issues we will work through
10:29:39 but it isn't materially different than we would
10:29:41 need
to do with design review.
10:29:49 So we will continue to work through that process
10:29:51 and I'm sure we will have
10:29:53 an update in
10:29:55 the next
opportunities on our chance to speak with
10:29:59 you.
10:30:16 .
>> I will include they have a number
10:30:18 of issues with tax credits and it normally
10:30:20 has not impeded the
10:30:23
development, it he's actually been helpful to get the additional
10:30:25 tax credits so the amount of
10:30:28 funds
that PHB is
10:30:30 providing is
10:30:32 reduced.
>> Great, thank you.
>>
10:30:34 I had
10:30:36 a question.
Susan
10:30:40 EMMONS, one of the bond
10:30:43 oversight.
Your presentation, you
10:30:45 have such a great track record in the
10:30:47 community.
I love how
10:30:50 you said involving the residents,
10:30:52 like what is the playground going to look
10:30:54 like.
, I do you such great work and so well
10:30:56 thought out.
I was thrilled about
10:30:58 the extra
10:31:03 units
10:31:08 .
When do you think you might you be
10:31:10 opening?
Is that hard to
10:31:13 say?
10:31:15 Like
10:31:19 202?
>> What is our
10:31:21 lease up schedule look like?
>> We're going
10:31:23 to start construction
10:31:26 probably in Marveling.
I
10:31:29 believe t is now a 24-month
10:31:31 schedule with the new units.
10:31:33 So we will be done --
10:31:35 so 2021,
10:31:37 yeah, so we will -- we have a
10:31:39 six-monthlies up because it is such a
long
10:31:41 project, we will be leasing up the end
10:31:46 of '22, '23.
>> Thank you, Susan, so
10:31:48 much for your comments.
We
10:31:50 really appreciate it.
And we feel really
10:31:52 privileged to be able to work on this
10:31:56 project.
>>
10:31:58 You all may not know this but we
10:32:00 moved our offices into the
10:32:02 building, because we can socially
10:32:04
distance beautifully so I think
10:32:06 we're bonded more to this building
10:32:10 than any other buildings in our
portfolio because a
10:32:12 number of us spend most of our day there
10:32:14 now and, as Julie
10:32:16 says, it is a real
privilege.
>> It is
10:32:18 a temporary our office
10:32:20 space to socially distance and
10:32:22 also to be able to provide a little
bit of
10:32:24 security for the building because it is a
10:32:26 large property and we wanted people to
10:32:29 see that
there was activity
10:32:31 there every day, and so
10:32:34 it sort of met a couple of
10:32:36 different challenges for us.
10:32:38 But it is super nice
10:32:40 to be there and people are going to
10:32:42 really enjoy living there.
10:32:46 >> Thank you very much.
We appreciate the
10:32:49 presentation.
Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>>
10:32:52 Any other smells or questions from the
10:32:55 Oversight Committee?
10:32:59 Anneliese?
No?
All right, excellent.
10:33:01 Then we will go to, I think, the
10:33:03 next group of presenters.
10:33:13 >> This is Tanya, really
10:33:16 quickly.
I believe we have most of our project
10:33:18 team folks with
10:33:20 us for
10:33:22 115th and Division.
I think I saw them
10:33:24 come in, so I will hand it over
10:33:26 to our project team for this
10:33:29 project from
10:33:31
related northwest
10:33:33 and Central City
10:33:37 Concern.
10:33:53 >> Just wanted to say, it is
10:33:55 such a pleasure to see that
10:34:01 Anna Mann house beginning to work, I
toured
10:34:03 that so a pleasure following that
10:34:05 presentation.
I'm with Related
10:34:08 Northwest with
10:34:10 Stephanie condor
10:34:13 and Mary reign
10:34:15 with Central City Concern.
We will give you an
10:34:18 update on
10:34:20 our 115th and Division project
10:34:22 we're incredibly excited
10:34:26 about.
10:34:39 Other partners involved are
10:34:42 Boys and
10:34:46 Girls Club, and
10:34:48 IRCO.
Our priority communities are
10:34:50 families, communities of color,
10:34:52 immigrants and refugees
10:34:54 and immigrants
10:34:57
experiencing homelessness.
We have a unit
10:34:59 mix up here and we've got about
10:35:01 3 % of the units are
10:35:04 going to be at 30%
10:35:06 AMI or
below, and 7 of those
10:35:09 units are permanent supportive housing
10:35:11 units, as well.
10:35:24 Half of the out of bounds e
10:35:26 units are family sized two or three
10:35:29 bedrooms.
We estimate 343.
10:35:32 Next slide, please.
>> And we want
10:35:34 to mention we have seven units that are
10:35:37 PSH units.
>>
10:35:40 Right and we've
10:35:43 got our funding sources here,
10:35:45 along with the beautiful picture of the
10:35:47 interior
courtyard.
So this is
10:35:49 a 4% tax credit deal, so, you
10:35:51 know, with the Portland housing bonds,
10:35:53 we've got the 4%
tax credit equity
10:35:56 we're estimating at about 12
10:35:58 million.
We are anticipating senior
10:36:00 debt of
10:36:02 roughly 7.4 million.
We've got an award
10:36:05 from
10:36:07 OHCS from the GAP
10:36:09 funding for 1.2 million and
10:36:11 we're anticipating some
10:36:15 OHCS
MEP
10:36:18 at 100,000 so total about
10:36:20 29.5 million.
And leveraging
10:36:22 our Portland bond funds
10:36:25 by 2.5 times.
While we're on
10:36:27 this slide, a quick informational piece
10:36:29 on the building here.
It is
10:36:31 kind of in a crescent
10:36:34 shape.
What you see is the courtyard, which
10:36:36 is going to be nicely landscaped,
10:36:39 obviously, and we've got a
playground
10:36:41 we're putting in there.
And it
10:36:43 leads right into the boys and girls
10:36:45 club space, we will be doing
10:36:47 an after school
10:36:49 program
from the
10:36:51 Boys and Girls
10:36:53 Club, we will run for
10:36:56 school-aged children of the community.
We
10:36:58 are a block away from the elementary school so
10:37:00 we're excited.
This is one of a kind and
10:37:02 the first time we're doing this and
10:37:04 we're incredibly excited about the
partnership there.
10:37:12 >> This Central City
10:37:15 Concern, the
10:37:30 boys and girls club, I sit on the
10:37:32 board for the Portland area and
just
10:37:34 hearing about some of the challenges they have
10:37:36 to keep their large
10:37:39 clubs going, this is a
10:37:41
solution to help them reach a demographic that
10:37:43 is very commensurate to who they're
10:37:45 serving in the
community.
10:37:59 We thoughts this would be a great way to assist
10:38:01 the residents who struggle with
10:38:03 after school care
by
10:38:05 co-locating it.
Like Ryan said,
10:38:07 what is nice, there is an elementary
10:38:09 school, they can walk to grocery, there is
10:38:11
rapid transit on
10:38:13 this Division Street corridor.
10:38:15 All kinds of
10:38:18 stuff on
10:38:21 122nd and Division that is walking
10:38:23 distance, so we're thrilled about the
location and
10:38:25 amenities we're able to
10:38:27 provide for residents.
I wanted
10:38:29 to give a shout out because one
10:38:31 of the most notable things about the
10:38:34 community, besides
the fact it is looking really
10:38:36 good.
>> Right.
Thanks,
10:38:38 Steph.
Development progress so we are
10:38:40 currently in for our building
10:38:43 permit.
We submitted in
10:38:45 May.
We're anticipating the first
10:38:47 comments in a week or a
10:38:49 week and a half, and we're scheduled to
10:38:51 close
right now on late
10:38:53 October, 2020, so right around the corner.
10:38:55 We're going out to bid with our general
10:38:58 contractor just at the end
10:39:00 of this moment.
And, then, project
10:39:02 highlights.
Obviously, 100%
10:39:05 affordable family development with support
10:39:08 of
10:39:10 services
10:39:14 provided by Central City
Concerns
10:39:16 and the case management
10:39:19 for the PHB units.
Boys & Girls
10:39:22 Club will administer the after
10:39:23 school programs and
10:39:26 involved with programs,
10:39:28 education
and outreach, as
10:39:30 well with IRCO.
10:39:32 Milestones, going out to bid, getting pricing in
10:39:35 July.
We have our debt and equity
10:39:37 partners selected, closing calls
10:39:39 and things are rapidly
10:39:42 approaching a
fall close.
We're anticipating about
10:39:45 an 18-month
10:39:48 construction period so hoping to open our doors
10:39:50 and start
leasing up in
10:39:53 April 2022.
Next slide, please.
In
10:39:56 terms of
10:39:59 DMWSB
10:40:02 updates
10:40:12 , we're anticipating
10:40:14 35%.
They are really assist with
10:40:16 helping subcontractors get on
10:40:18 board and developing a wide network
10:40:20 of
minority contractors.
So
10:40:22 we're excited about that.
I think we're going
10:40:25 to hopefully blow the goal out
10:40:27 of the water.
10:40:29 On the soft cost, as
10:40:31 well, 20% aspirational
10:40:33 goal.
We're closer to 35,
10:40:35 40% on the project soft
10:40:37 cost, as well.
Again,
10:40:39 we've got great relationships with
10:40:42 folks and our lead architect and many of
10:40:44 our subs are
going to be falling into
10:40:46 that category, so real excited about
10:40:48 blowing that goal out of the water,
as
10:40:51 well.
Next slide,
10:40:55 please.
So
10:40:57 issues and challenges.
There is a little
10:40:59 bit of uncertainty with
10:41:02 BDS permit review time
10:41:04 frame, given the fer
10:41:07 lows and
covid, working remote,
10:41:09 but people there have been fantastic, really
10:41:12 prioritizing these projects.
We just recently
10:41:15 closed our
10:41:17 Cedar Commons project, and the
10:41:20 reviewers made it through, we got the
10:41:22
permit in time.
I think it's incredible
10:41:24 the amount of work they're doing
10:41:26 given these uncertain times.
We feel like we
10:41:28 can overcome that one, it is a little bit
10:41:30 of uncertainty.
I think the covid
10:41:32 environment in general impacts on
10:41:34 construction, time frame, things
10:41:37 like that, we
are doing some things
10:41:39 to help mitigate that in terms of,
10:41:41 you know, negotiating additional
10:41:43 time
frames and grace periods, our
10:41:45 equity investors,
10:41:47 extensions on loan terms,
10:41:49 negotiating additional
10:41:52
things and perhaps the agreements
10:41:54 like larger allowances
10:41:56 for stored materials and things
10:41:58 like that
to
10:42:00 help mitigate that.
>> Can I
10:42:02 add a couple things, with
10:42:05 respect to BDS
10:42:07 permitting, you know, Ryan has been
10:42:09 doing a good
work working with the
10:42:11 city to kind of track and
10:42:14 benchmark the progress to make sure we're
10:42:16 hitting,
you know, during our plan
10:42:19 checks and everything, just to be
10:42:20 really mindful that we're
10:42:23 hitting our
dates as we're going
10:42:25 along.
So I think it is
10:42:27 just about more focus
10:42:29 project management to usher that through
10:42:31 and be very pro
active, so I think
10:42:33 that's one thing.
With respect
10:42:35 to just the covid environment and
10:42:38 construction, you know, I think, you know,
10:42:40 most
folks know on this call and if
10:42:42 not, Walsh is one of, I
10:42:44 think, the strongest if not the
10:42:47 strongest
contractor for
10:42:50 affordable
10:42:52 housing in the area and I think they've
10:42:54 done a great job about
10:42:56 their
responsiveness around covid
10:42:58 and logistics and having a good work
10:43:01 plan.
We've got kind of this ability of
10:43:03 seeing ahead of the future by
10:43:05 our Cedar
10:43:07 Commons, aka small
10:43:09 division, that just recently closed and work through
10:43:11 some of those
10:43:13 logistics.
So we're giving the opportunity for
10:43:15 this project to do best
10:43:17 practices, lessoned learned
10:43:20 and be even
more pro active
10:43:22 than on small division.
All of
10:43:24 those bode well to mitigate
10:43:26 tie types of
10:43:29 covid-related riskses we're seeing out there.
It
10:43:31 is two part.
pro active
10:43:33 planning, project management and then the third
10:43:35 is what Ryan alluded to is
10:43:37 making sure,
on our investor
10:43:39 and debt that we are putting
10:43:42 into place some cushion in the eventer
10:43:45 that there are
delays.
You
10:43:47 plan life and life plans you a little,
10:43:49 so we're trying to head
10:43:51 it off on all three
10:43:54 arenas, so I
want to share that the way
10:43:56 we've been pursuing this.
>>
10:43:58 Thanks, Steph.
Next slide,
10:44:02 please.
So in terms of
10:44:04 community engagement, we've
10:44:06 been pretty active here.
We reached
10:44:09 out to multiple neighborhood associations in the
10:44:11 east Portland area.
We've done
10:44:13 a
10:44:15 presentation to
10:44:17 East Portland Action
10:44:19 Plan and had great response and a lot of support
10:44:21
from those folks in the neighborhood
10:44:23 associations.
We did host an out reach
10:44:25 meeting which we encouraged
10:44:28 community feedback on design and we had
10:44:30 a
pretty good turnout for that.
And
10:44:32 again, had nothing but positive response from
10:44:35 community members,
10:44:36 people excited, people ready
to
10:44:38 refer friends and family.
I
10:44:41 can people are going to see this is going to
10:44:43 be a great asset to the local
10:44:45 community.
You know, we've posted
10:44:47 a development notice site,
10:44:49 on site.
We've already gotten
10:44:51 calls and most have been like
10:44:53 perspective folks wanting to lease
10:44:56 an
apartment.
So people are already
10:44:58 gearing up for
10:45:00 that.
And that's been probably the
10:45:02 highlights of our community
10:45:05 engagement.
Next slide, please.
>>
10:45:07 And then we've also
10:45:09 had discussions
10:45:11 and spoken with the division midway
10:45:14 group that
10:45:16 is out
10:45:18 there
10:45:21
and we will work with the David
10:45:23 Douglas School District.
We have
10:45:25 former projects we worked on
10:45:27 arm and the local Boys & Girls
10:45:30 Club on Rockwood
10:45:32 and 185th and
Stark, a conversation
10:45:34 with them because they're also
10:45:36 in this field so casting a wide net out
10:45:38 there
and letting folks
10:45:40 know.
>> Right.
Great.
10:45:42 Thank you.
We would like to open it
10:45:44 up for any
10:45:47 questions that anybody
10:45:50 has.
10:45:58 >> We also have
10:46:00 Mary on with Central City
10:46:02 Concern.
I don't know if you wanted to add any
10:46:04 comments about the partnership or,
10:46:07 you
10:46:09 know, your
contribution
10:46:11 to our project.
It might be nice
10:46:13 to hear a couple words from
10:46:15 you.
You always say great things.
>>
10:46:18 Hi.
Can you all see me and
10:46:22 hear
10:46:24 me?
>>
10:46:26 If at a minimum you can hear
10:46:28 me, that is
10:46:31 success.
Thanks,
10:46:33 Stef, for opening it up for a minute.
We are
10:46:36 incredibly excited to be partnering
10:46:38 once again with Related
10:46:40 Northwest.
As was mentioned, this project
10:46:42 is directly next door to our
10:46:44 Cedar Commons project,
10:46:46 which just broke
down, so we're really
10:46:48 building up this community out
10:46:51 on 115th, and really looking forward
10:46:53 to how
this is going to
10:46:56 bring increased amenities
10:46:58 and services and most importantly
10:47:00 affordable housing to
that part of
10:47:03 East Portland.
So just a
10:47:05 few points on
10:47:07 CCC's role in the project.
We are a
10:47:11 co-developer, and
10:47:14 our primary role beyond that is the services
10:47:16 provision for the project.
10:47:18 So we have a full-time resident
10:47:20 services coordinator that will be
10:47:22 providing overall resident
services for
10:47:24 all of the units,
10:47:27 all 138 units, so that will be,
10:47:29 you know, community
10:47:31 events, resource
10:47:33
and referral, eviction
10:47:36 prevention, employ assistance, making
10:47:38 sure folks are connected to health
10:47:40
care.
All of the
10:47:43 core stabilization services that are so
10:47:45 essential and that
10:47:48 CC has, our 40 years of
10:47:50
experience 6 providing.
In addition to
10:47:52 that, we have
10:47:55 a .8FTE for the seven permanent supportive
10:47:57 housing units so that
position will be
10:47:59 providing the more
10:48:02 intensive, really daily case
10:48:04 management to those households and
10:48:10
families
10:48:14 to receive all the wrap around
10:48:16 support to be successful in their community
10:48:18 with that,
happy to answer
10:48:20 any questions related to
10:48:22 services, and thank you very much.
>>
10:48:24 Thanks, Mary-Rain.
10:48:28 >> Dr. Holt, I had a question for
10:48:31 the
10:48:33 project
10:48:35 team this
10:48:37 is Allan
10:48:42 Lazo from the weak oversight
10:48:45
Committee.
I think the
10:48:48 matrix doesn't list everybody you've listed there in
10:48:50 the engagement you're doing.
10:48:52 I'm curious,
10:48:54 Stef, if there is a formal
10:48:56 joint venture with
10:48:58 IRCO and Boys & Girls Club
10:49:00 where they
are actually equity Barter ins in the
10:49:02 project?
10:49:05 >> No,
10:49:07 so Central City Concern our non-profit
10:49:10 partner in the deal, so there is
10:49:12 an equity piece for
them.
Boys & Girls
10:49:14 Club, we are covering all of the
10:49:16 expense of having the staff there and
10:49:18 covering, you
know, we don't charge
10:49:21 any rent and we don't charge the
10:49:23 residents any fees, and we cover for
10:49:25 their
staffing.
But there's not
10:49:27 -- there's not an
10:49:29 ownership, we'll say.
They're not really
10:49:32 set up for that.
10:49:34 And, then, with to the IRCO,
10:49:36 no.
We have them, we will be giving
10:49:39 them a stipend for outreach.
10:49:41 And, then, as the
10:49:43 PSH kind of forms, because it will be
10:49:45 through coordinated access that's
10:49:47 when
we're going to try to connect them
10:49:49 with services.
We had a
10:49:51 great, long conversation with them
10:49:53 and Central City Concern
10:49:56 recently to kind of start
firming up
10:49:58 and developing what that service
10:50:00 model is.
10:50:02 And, they're really
10:50:05 excited 246789 actually was, this community is
10:50:08 a response to a community
10:50:10
engagement meeting that I did years ago
10:50:12 out there.
I think Shannon was out there at
10:50:14 the time.
I was so impressed with
10:50:17 IRCO and they did a great job of
10:50:19 expressing the needs of the
10:50:21 residents out
in that community, that
10:50:23 this project was born from that.
It is neat
10:50:26 to say look how far we've been able to
10:50:28 take it.
We learned.
A big
10:50:30 thing is we want large bedroom
10:50:32 units, so we're doing a lot of three
10:50:35 bedrooms.
More aMP3ity
10:50:37 space, after school care is a huge problem.
10:50:40 Here are all the things we heard you
10:50:42 say.
Is that what it looks like?
10:50:44 They're, like, yeah.
So they're excited
10:50:46 dob a part of
10:50:49 it.
>> Thank
10:50:51 you
10:50:53 .
I thought it was
10:50:55 curious, it would be neat if they had
10:50:57 equity states.
>> Yeah, yeah.
10:51:01 Any other questions?
10:51:04 >> Any other questions
10:51:06 from the
10:51:09 Oversight Committee.
10:51:12 Anneliese, you've said nothing today.
10:51:14 We haven't be heard your voice.
>> I'm
10:51:16 good.
This is a wonderful
10:51:19 presentation.
I appreciate hearing
10:51:21 from both of you.
It is really great to see
10:51:23 the projects we saw on paper
10:51:25 and concept starting to really hit
10:51:27 the
ground running, so that's wonderful
10:51:29 to see, and thank you.
>>
10:51:32 Thank you very much, anneliese.
10:51:35 Susan.
>> It was a
10:51:37 very thorough presentation.
I had
10:51:39 questions along the way that were
10:51:41 answered, so, yeah, good
10:51:43 job.
I think it is exciting
10:51:45 and I love the fact that you're developing
10:51:48 something that is so needed and
that you've known
10:51:51 that, the history.
It was interesting to hear
10:51:53 the history behind it.
>>
10:51:56 Thank you very
10:51:58 much.
>>
10:52:00 Thank you.
>> I would weigh in
10:52:02 and say for both groups what is
10:52:04 important at this moment as
10:52:07 highlighted in the
report as so many
10:52:08 consultants and smaller contractors
10:52:11 being impacted by covid, I
10:52:14 appreciated hear
the commitment
10:52:17 around
10:52:19 equity and the commitment to the
10:52:21 numbers.
That is extremely important and
10:52:24 valuable in this
10:52:26 time so commend you for that.
10:52:28 Director Callahan, is
10:52:30 there anything you wanted to say?
>>
10:52:32 I was going to say to the
10:52:34 bond oversight committee, the network she
10:52:36 was talking about to create
the
10:52:38 partnership with
10:52:40 IRRCO was your meeting.
Ing the
10:52:43 community engagement meeting we had back two years
10:52:45 ago before we started
10:52:47 the bond
solicitation
10:52:49 process, not quite two years ago, where
10:52:51 we brought community together to the table and
10:52:53
talked about what people were wanting to
10:52:55 see and what kind of partnerships we wanted
10:52:57 to create.
It was actually at one
10:52:59 of
10:53:01 those
10:53:03 tables that staff was able
10:53:05 to connect with the folks from
10:53:08 IRCO and
create that partnership.
I wanted
10:53:10 to put a little shout out to you for
10:53:12 the community meetings you were able to
10:53:14 hold, and I
look forward to the day when we are able
10:53:16 to do an in-person
10:53:18 meeting with community partners.
10:53:20 But I think it also makes me
10:53:23 think that we should -- we're going to
10:53:25 be in this space for
10:53:27 a while
and so I will work with our
10:53:29 team to see if there is a way we can figure
10:53:31 out how to do a more
virtual
10:53:34 meeting of this type to see if we
10:53:36 can keep that kind of engagement
10:53:38 going with the bond
10:53:40
oversight committee.
I can these peps you're
10:53:42 helping foster and create
10:53:44 through your work are make,
10:53:47 obviously, a real
meaningful difference
10:53:49 in how these buildings are going to operate
10:53:51 for the people and community
members who get to
10:53:53 live in them.
I just wanted to
10:53:55 appreciate you for that meeting.
Thank you.
10:53:57 >> Thank you.
We
10:53:59 do have space for public testimony.
10:54:02 I did not see
10:54:04 any people signed
10:54:06 up for
10:54:09 such.
10:54:13 Stacey, did we have anyone sign up for public
10:54:16 testimony?
>> No, we did not.
>>
10:54:18 Okay.
Thank you so much for everyone being with us.
I
10:54:20 think, at this point, we will begin our wrap
10:54:23 up.
Our next meeting is
10:54:25 scheduled for October, and I look
10:54:27 forward to the continued great
10:54:29 work.
You have it right
10:54:32 there.
It is
10:54:35 October 1 where we will be
10:54:38 gathered in this
10:54:40 Zoom platform kind of context.
I guess, by
10:54:43 then, some of us will be
10:54:45 pretty proficient at it.
Again, I
10:54:48 apologize.
Technical difficulties this
10:54:50 morning.
Technology is great when it
10:54:53 works.
And for whatever reason, I could not
10:54:55 get the
10:54:57 iPad to participate so here we are, we were
10:55:00 able to
manage it.
Until
10:55:02 we meet again, I appreciate your
10:55:05 work.
Take care of
10:55:07 yourselves.
Everybody stay safe.
All right,
10:55:09 bye-bye.
>> Thanks.
>> Thank you.